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  <date date="2016-04-13" />
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Steel Industry</name>
      <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000450">
        <heading>Steel Industry</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2016-04-13">
            <name>Steel Industry</name>
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        <startTime time="2016-04-13T14:41:23" />
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000451">
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          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL (Dunstan—Leader of the Opposition) (14:41):</by>  My question is to the Treasurer. Was the Treasurer aware that foreign made structural steel was being used in the new Royal Adelaide Hospital project when he criticised the New South Wales government for using foreign steel in a rail project, and will he now conduct a full audit of the use of foreign made structural steel being used in government projects across South Australia?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Finance</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for State Development</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2016-04-13">
            <name>Steel Industry</name>
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        <startTime time="2016-04-13T14:41:45" />
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000452">
          <timeStamp time="2016-04-13T14:41:45" />
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens—Treasurer, Minister for Finance, Minister for State Development, Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy) (14:41):</by>  I will answer the last bit first: no, we won't, because it won't serve any purpose. Two, as I said earlier, structural steel out of Whyalla has been integral in almost all of our infrastructure projects. It depends on a number of aspects: one, the availability of that stock and; two, the particular type of structural steel that is manufactured in Australia.</text>
        <page num="5157" />
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000453">Where we could, and before Arrium was in the predicament it is in today, we were purchasing South Australian steel and Australian steel, overwhelmingly, and investing it in infrastructure that our opponents called a false economy spend. Whether it was the Adelaide Oval, the footbridge, the NRAH, all of these infrastructure programs we have rolled out that members opposite have opposed, and now they are telling us we should have done this and that with that type of procurement.</text>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000454">Since Arrium has faced the problems that they are facing now with the unprecedented level of the dumping of inferior cheap steel on our shores, the South Australian government reacted. We reacted quite quickly and we did it in concert with Arrium. We came up with a policy that, one, wasn't protectionist but, at the same time, gave Arrium every opportunity to succeed.</text>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000455">I think every steelmaker in this country is not looking for a protectionist regime; what they are looking for is a level and fair playing field. What they are looking for is that, when the private sector is using steel on their projects and they are saying that it meets the Australian standard, when a lot of Australian steelmakers know that the cheap, inferior steel being dumped—</text>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000456">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000457">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I said no. I answered that first. You should have paid attention.</text>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000458">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000459">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  No audit. I think our procurement policy has been very well received, not only by the commonwealth government and Chris Pyne, who thinks it is an excellent policy, but of course by the federal opposition. It is becoming a bipartisan approach to Australian steelmaking. There is only one group of people left who have not adopted it, and that is members opposite, who have come up with no procurement policy, no steel policy, no intervention policy for Whyalla, nothing. Indeed, yesterday, they were asking questions about the Minister for Regional Development and his visit to Whyalla, while the current shadow minister for regional development didn't even bother going with the opposition leader and the Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy. I have to say, Mr Speaker—</text>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000460">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000461">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Chaffey is warned for the second and final time. The member for Stuart is called to order, and the Treasurer is called to order for debating the answer. Is the Treasurer finished?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000462">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  No, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000463">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Mr Speaker, point of order: I ask that the Treasurer withdraw his comment. The shadow minister for regional development was in Whyalla with the Leader of the Opposition and the shadow minister for employment.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000464">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Stuart will leave under the sessional order for an entirely bogus point of order, and he will leave for 45 minutes.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000465">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  In defence of the member for Stuart, I think I may have miscategorised, and I do apologise and withdraw, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000466">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000467">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Point of order, member for Morialta.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000468">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  Under standing order 127, a member may not make personal reflections on any other member. The Treasurer did, and he has signalled that he is going to actually withdraw that. The tradition of the house is the member so reflected upon must ask for that reflection to be withdrawn immediately, which is what the member for Stuart did, and I seek your ruling.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000469">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Stuart presented it as a point of order, which it wasn't. The member for Stuart may seek leave to make a personal explanation.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="5158" />
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000470">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  Sir, your previous rulings, and previous speakers, have relied upon standing order 127, the understanding that the objection must be raised at the time that it is heard, and then the Speaker usually asks the member whether he will withdraw what is said. If the Speaker has not heard the comment in question, he will ask the member who has made the comment whether that is true. In this case, the Treasurer seems quite clear that he was going to withdraw it, and I seek that you reflect upon your decision and on previous rulings.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000471">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Alright, I think that is a fair point, and I withdraw the removal of the member for Stuart under the sessional order. My point was it was not a point of order; the appropriate course is to seek leave to make a personal explanation. But I agree with the member for Morialta: it seems disproportionate to apply the sessional order for that reason. The Treasurer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000472">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  So, Mr Speaker, we have got a procurement policy in place that will maximise as much—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000473">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Point of order, Mr Speaker: given your now ruling, would you call upon the Treasurer to respond?</text>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000474">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Gardner</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000475">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr Gardner:</by>  He suggested that he was about to; he didn't.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000476">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Does the Treasurer wish to—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000477">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I already have, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000478">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  You already have, okay.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000479">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman:</by>  On the record.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000480">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I did on the record. You weren't paying attention, you were busy plotting.</text>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000481">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000482">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Mr Speaker, the state government is now—</text>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000483">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2016041374745c32a15d4352a0000484">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Treasurer's time has expired. The member for Napier.</text>
      </talker>
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