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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Child Protection</name>
      <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000982">
        <heading>Child Protection</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2016-03-09">
            <name>Child Protection</name>
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        <startTime time="2016-03-09T14:16:00" />
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000983">
          <timeStamp time="2016-03-09T14:16:00" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL (Dunstan—Leader of the Opposition) (14:16):</by>  My question is to the Attorney-General. Who has responsibility for determining whether child protection remains in or out of the education department, and does the Attorney-General concede that Mr Waterford was correct when he stated that child safety suffered once the child protection department was rolled into the education department?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Enfield</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Attorney-General</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Justice Reform</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Planning</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industrial Relations</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Child Protection Reform</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the Public Sector</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Consumer and Business Services</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the City of Adelaide</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2016-03-09">
            <name>Child Protection</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2016-03-09T14:16:24" />
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000984">
          <timeStamp time="2016-03-09T14:16:24" />
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU (Enfield—Deputy Premier, Attorney-General, Minister for Justice Reform, Minister for Planning, Minister for Industrial Relations, Minister for Child Protection Reform, Minister for the Public Sector, Minister for Consumer and Business Services, Minister for the City of Adelaide) (14:16):</by>  I thank the honourable member for his question. I obviously was not present during Mr Waterford's contribution, but I have read in the media reports of what he had to say, just as others have, and that clearly was his perspective on things. But I think the fact is that Mr Waterford was making a contribution to Commissioner Nyland's inquiry. My expectation is that Commissioner Nyland will consider the views of Mr Waterford and many other people as to whether or not that particular formula for the alignment of agencies has been beneficial.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Marshall</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000985">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall:</by>  Who is responsible is the question: is it you or is it the Minister for Education and Child Development?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000986">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  Ultimately, my view is that it will probably proceed in this way. At some point in time, Commissioner Nyland I expect—well, not at some point in time, I think it is about August.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Marshall</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000987">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall:</by>  Who's making the decisions is the question, and do you support the current arrangement?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000988">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  I am happy to take supplementary questions on this.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Marshall</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000989">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall:</by>  That is the question. That is the original question. We're onto the third question and we haven't had any answers.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000990">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  Please, let me get to it.</text>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000991">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="4633" />
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000992">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  I am trying to actually divine what the substance of the question is. If the question is actually, 'What are you doing right now about changing the structure of the education department?—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Marshall</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000993">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall:</by>  That wasn't the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000994">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  Okay, well, I'm trying to make sense of it because—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Marshall</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000995">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall:</by>  Who will be making the decisions?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000996">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  The cabinet. The government will in due course make a decision. It may well be that the committee of which I am chair and my ministerial colleagues are members will put a proposition to the cabinet, but ultimately that will be a matter for the cabinet. But can I say this: I think it would be impertinent, rude and disrespectful for the cabinet to go off and make a decision about that matter in the full knowledge that Commissioner Nyland is presently conducting an inquiry into that matter, and we fully expect that the commissioner will have something to say about that topic. I would have thought for us to go off and make any sort of pre-emptive move in any direction would be—</text>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000997">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4840">Mr Tarzia interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000998">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Hartley is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90000999">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  For us to make any sort of pre-emptive move in that space I would have thought would be most discourteous.</text>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90001000">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4340">Ms Sanderson interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90001001">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Adelaide is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90001002">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  I would expect that there will be—</text>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90001003">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4847">Mr Knoll interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90001004">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I warn the member for Schubert.</text>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90001005">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. Caica interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90001006">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I call the member for Colton to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20160309cbfbc6d6f2f641ff90001007">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  My expectation is that we would be in a position as a government to deal with a response to that question subsequent to receiving the report from Commissioner Nyland.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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