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  <date date="2015-09-23" />
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Land Tax</name>
      <text id="20150923f9cfa921291f45e5b0000476">
        <heading>Land Tax</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="question">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Stuart</electorate>
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          <question date="2015-09-23">
            <name>Land Tax</name>
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        <startTime time="2015-09-23T14:53:18" />
        <text id="20150923f9cfa921291f45e5b0000477">
          <timeStamp time="2015-09-23T14:53:18" />
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN (Stuart) (14:53):</by>  Given that my question was: what is the provision for loss of land tax, is the Treasurer saying that, when stamp duty on commercial real property transactions is removed and when people then find it relatively cheap to ungroup their properties and reduce their land tax bill—</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20150923f9cfa921291f45e5b0000478">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Is this an explanation of a question?</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4342" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20150923f9cfa921291f45e5b0000479">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Is he therefore saying that he thinks the provision is minimal?</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Finance</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for State Development</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Small Business</name>
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        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2015-09-23T14:53:48" />
        <text id="20150923f9cfa921291f45e5b0000480">
          <timeStamp time="2015-09-23T14:53:48" />
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens—Treasurer, Minister for Finance, Minister for State Development, Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy, Minister for Small Business) (14:53):</by>  The intent of the government's tax changes, which the opposition ridiculed and then called on us to bring forward, were to try to encourage more transactions in this area. We believe that transactional taxes are an inhibitor to economic activity. We believe that we want to see more people transacting. Indeed, what we would like to see is more interstate investment in South Australia. </text>
        <text id="20150923f9cfa921291f45e5b0000481">It is my belief and Treasury's belief that there will be almost no impact on land tax receipts at all. We, in fact, believe that our land tax receipts will grow year on year out throughout the forward estimates, and, of course, they are published. The member for Stuart should know that but obviously doesn't, and he is evolving his questions as he is hearing the explanations because he got it so horribly wrong in the first question.</text>
        <text id="20150923f9cfa921291f45e5b0000482">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4342">Mr van Holst Pellekaan interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20150923f9cfa921291f45e5b0000483">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Stuart is warned for the second and final time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20150923f9cfa921291f45e5b0000484">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Don't worry, it'll be over soon. I feel for the member for Stuart, and I almost feel his pain because I want him to do so well, but I'm really, really concerned.</text>
        <text id="20150923f9cfa921291f45e5b0000485">I want to see more transactions; I want to see more ownerships in this state; I want to see us getting our per capita share of national investments into South Australia into property. I know that members opposite ridiculed these tax changes before they called on us to accelerate them to accelerate jobs' growth, despite them saying on budget day that this will create not a single extra job. That is the logic we have to deal with from members opposite.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">An honourable member interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="2661" />
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          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  A member has just interjected that these tax changes do not take place for another three years. That's wrong again. The truth is that, on budget day, non-real property transactional taxes were abolished immediately, as were all transactional taxes on all statutory licences, on goodwill, on IP and on plant and equipment—abolished on day one. Within 12 months of that budget will be the first tranche of further tax cuts in conveyance duty. So the opposition saying that it will not happen for three years is fundamentally a lie.</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20150923f9cfa921291f45e5b0000488">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I would ask the Treasurer in the interests of harmony to withdraw the expression 'a lie'.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20150923f9cfa921291f45e5b0000489">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Sir, I am oil on top of waters. I withdraw 'lie' and replace it with 'a blatant falsehood'.</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20150923f9cfa921291f45e5b0000490">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The members for Chaffey, Morialta and Mitchell are called to order, and the member for Morialta is warned for the first time.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4339">Mr Whetstone interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20150923f9cfa921291f45e5b0000492">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Chaffey is warned for the first time. The member for Mitchell.</text>
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