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  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2015-07-02" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Third Parliament, Second Session (53-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>53</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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  <proceeding>
    <name>Ministerial Statement</name>
    <text id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000806">
      <heading>Ministerial Statement</heading>
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    <subject>
      <name>Matter of Privilege</name>
      <text id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000807">
        <heading>Matter of Privilege</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="3123" kind="speech">
        <name>The Hon. A. PICCOLO</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Light</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Disabilities</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Police</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Correctional Services</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Emergency Services</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Road Safety</name>
          </portfolio>
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        <startTime time="2015-07-02T15:15:30" />
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          <timeStamp time="2015-07-02T15:15:30" />
          <by role="member" id="3123">The Hon. A. PICCOLO (Light—Minister for Disabilities, Minister for Police, Minister for Correctional Services, Minister for Emergency Services, Minister for Road Safety) (15:15):</by>  I seek leave to make a ministerial statement.</text>
        <text id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000809">Leave granted.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3123" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. PICCOLO</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000810">
          <by role="member" id="3123">The Hon. A. PICCOLO:</by>  Earlier today the member for Morphett rose on a matter of privilege about information I had provided to the house. More specifically, the honourable member is of the opinion that I may have misled the house about whether I issued a statutory direction to the board of SAFECOM to do a trial that is currently taking place with the Mount Barker Country Fire Service Brigade. The Fire and Emergency Services Act 2005 in section 7(2) states:</text>
        <text id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000811">
          <inserted>A direction given to the Commission under this section must be in writing.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000812">I reassure the house that I issued no such direction. I repeat: I have issued no such direction. By way of background, on 11 February 2015 I attended the SAFECOM board meeting where I discussed the opportunities to improve the urban fire and rescue capability in the Mount Barker area. This has been a continuing issue since the Mount Barker brigade provided a submission to the then minister for emergency services, the Hon. Michael O'Brien, in 2013.</text>
        <text id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000813">At no time during the meeting did I direct the board orally or, more importantly, in writing. A written direction would be required for the purposes of section 7(2). This is reflected in the minutes of that meeting, a copy which I now table. My office has recently provided the member for Morphett with documents under freedom of information about the trial in Mount Barker that has since been initiated by the board.</text>
        <text id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000814">In a letter dated 6 October 2014 to Mr Chapman, captain of the Mount Barker brigade, I used the word 'directed' in its generic rather than in its legislative sense. It is unfortunate if the use of this word has been construed as a direction under section 7(2). This is not meant to be the case. I was simply asking my agencies to provide me with advice on what might be possible in Mount Barker under the circumstances. Mr Speaker, I table a copy of that letter.</text>
        <text id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000815">I offer my apology for creating a semantic confusion by using the word 'direct' in my letter to Mr Chapman in its generic sense but certainly not in its statutory meaning.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1807">
        <name>Dr McFETRIDGE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000816">
          <by role="member" id="1807">Dr McFETRIDGE:</by>  Mr Speaker, just a point of clarification, have you—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="2042" />
        <text id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000817">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I am not really fond of points of clarification.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1807">
        <name>Dr McFETRIDGE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000818">
          <by role="member" id="1807">Dr McFETRIDGE:</by>  Well, on this matter of privilege, have you ruled on the matter of privilege, Mr Speaker?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000819">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Sorry?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1807">
        <name>Dr McFETRIDGE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000820">
          <by role="member" id="1807">Dr McFETRIDGE:</by>  Are you making a ruling on the matter of privilege?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000821">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, I am.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1807">
        <name>Dr McFETRIDGE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2015070205d88ab6f6ab4f0990000822">
          <by role="member" id="1807">Dr McFETRIDGE:</by>  I am new to this place—I have only been here nearly 14 years—but I would have thought that you would provide your adjudication before the minister was able to provide his excuse.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  That seems me to be a reflection on the Chair. I have been working assiduously, together with the Clerk, morning and afternoon on the member's point of privilege, and I will come to the house within the normal timetable for a ruling on that. The suggestion that somehow I am derelict in my duty by not ruling on it before the minister came in to make a ministerial statement or personal explanation is not justified.</text>
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