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  <date date="2015-06-17" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Third Parliament, Second Session (53-2)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Motor Accident Commission</name>
      <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000454">
        <heading>Motor Accident Commission</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="question">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Bragg</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2015-06-17">
            <name>Motor Accident Commission</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2015-06-17T14:25:08" />
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          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN (Bragg—Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (14:25):</by>  My question is to the Treasurer. Has the government undertaken any modelling or received any advice regarding the likely changes to the cost of CTP premiums after the cap on pricing is removed?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Finance</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for State Development</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Small Business</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2015-06-17">
            <name>Motor Accident Commission</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2015-06-17T14:25:27" />
        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000456">
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          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens—Treasurer, Minister for Finance, Minister for State Development, Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy, Minister for Small Business) (14:25):</by>  What we have done is we have got PricewaterhouseCoopers to do some modelling for us about the best model to allow a competitive market to grow in the compulsory third-party premiums area. There has been a lot of confusion, I think, by the media and members opposite, that we are somehow selling the Motor Accident Commission as a monopoly provider—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000458">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I know you want to be noticed where we send backbenchers to die, but it's okay, we know you are there; it's alright. What we are doing is we have got modelling about what is the most efficient way to allow South Australians to have more choice when it comes to compulsory third-party premiums, remembering that we compel South Australians—every South Australian that registers their motor vehicle—to have compulsory third-party premiums. So, it is a compulsion on South Australians, and we now have a government-run monopoly that issues those premiums. We believe, as do our commercial advisers, that the best option for South Australians is that that go out to a competitive market.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Marshall</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000459">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall:</by>  You can do that with the existing legislation.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000460">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Yes, we can. The legislation that we are seeking to introduce is to have an independent, industry-specific regulator. What the Leader of the Opposition is talking about is, 'Well, why don't you just use the government guarantee to protect taxpayers'—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Marshall</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000461">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall:</by>  Don't put words in my mouth!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000462">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  —like a bank—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000464">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  —like a bank—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3124">
        <name>Mr PISONI</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000465">
          <by role="member" id="3124">Mr PISONI:</by>  Point of order, sir: the minister is—</text>
      </talker>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000466">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Why is the member for Unley waving his arms about?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3124">
        <name>Mr PISONI</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000467">
          <by role="member" id="3124">Mr PISONI:</by>  —entering debate. When he refers to what he believes the Leader of the Opposition has said, he is obviously entering debate.</text>
      </talker>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000468">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I thank the Leader of the Opposition for answering my question. I don't uphold the point of order.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The advice that our commercial advisers gave us is the Motor Accident Commission cannot guarantee that premiums won't increase or decrease under a government monopoly. The best way to ensure a competitive market which will actually give motorists a more competitive outcome is that we will allow the private sector, in a competitive way, to offer people premiums.</text>
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        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000470">I know members opposite are harking back to the 1980s, when there were great socialist initiatives by using government guarantees to run public institutions. We do not believe that. We believe that the private sector can do this better. I am stunned that there are members in the Liberal Party who actually think issuing government guarantees in the private sector is a good thing, and I am looking specifically at the member for Davenport—</text>
        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000471">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000472">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000473">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  The Treasurer's characterisation of what he believes Liberal Party members' views are is clearly debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201506179f5c3c01fc76439380000474">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I think the Treasurer has made his point. Supplementary, deputy leader.</text>
      </talker>
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