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  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2015-05-14" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Third Parliament, Second Session (53-2)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Housing SA</name>
      <page num="1322" />
      <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000499">
        <heading>Housing SA</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4340" kind="question">
        <name>Ms SANDERSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Adelaide</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2015-05-14">
            <name>Housing SA</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2015-05-14T14:30:43" />
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000500">
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          <by role="member" id="4340">Ms SANDERSON (Adelaide) (14:30):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Social Housing. Given the government's policy of redeveloping South Australian Housing Trust properties built prior to 1968 within 10 kilometres of the city by 2020, can the minister explain how the conditions set out in the rental agreements for tenants of South Australian Housing Trust properties will be met with the implementation of this policy. Mr Speaker, with your leave and with that of the house, in case you are not aware, one of the conditions is that:</text>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000501">
          <inserted>…the Trust agrees to provide the tenant with other Trust accommodation—</inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000502">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Adelaide is seeking leave to make an explanation?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4340" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Ms SANDERSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000503">
          <by role="member" id="4340">Ms SANDERSON:</by>  Yes. I seek leave to make the explanation.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000504">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4340" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Ms SANDERSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000505">
          <by role="member" id="4340">Ms SANDERSON:</by>  The condition states:</text>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000506">
          <inserted>…the Trust agrees to provide the tenant with other Trust accommodation of a standard at least equal to that of the premises, with land of at least the same size as that of the premises, and in the same area or a nearby area.</inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000507">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I understand the member for Adelaide sent letters to Housing SA tenants about this matter, as did the member for Bragg. The Deputy Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Enfield</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Attorney-General</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Justice Reform</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Planning</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Housing and Urban Development</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industrial Relations</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Child Protection Reform</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2015-05-14T14:31:52" />
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000508">
          <timeStamp time="2015-05-14T14:31:52" />
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU (Enfield—Deputy Premier, Attorney-General, Minister for Justice Reform, Minister for Planning, Minister for Housing and Urban Development, Minister for Industrial Relations, Minister for Child Protection Reform) (14:31):</by>  Thank you, Mr Speaker, and can I say that the—</text>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000509">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000510">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  Okay. Since the dawn of time—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Gardner</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000511">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr Gardner:</by>  You're like a <term>Batman</term> villain: 'The Anaesthetist'.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000512">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  That's good!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000513">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Morialta is on two warnings.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000514">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  In the beginning there was the Housing Trust, and darkness was on the face of the deep—</text>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000515">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000516">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  You're confusing Genesis with John's gospel.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000517">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  Yes, indeed. Anyway, I don't want to waste my valuable time on that. It may come as a surprise, but the Housing Trust—or Housing SA as it is presently called—has been going through the process of building and renewing its stock since the dawn of the Housing Trust.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000518">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  In 1938, I think.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000519">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  Indeed, it is later than the dawn of time, but a significant time ago.</text>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000520">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000521">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I stand corrected by the member for Schubert—mid-1930s.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000522">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  And as the member for Newland points out, some 4.5 billion years after the dawn of time. Nonetheless, still a long time ago—</text>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000523">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000524">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  That's by current estimates. The point is they have been doing this for a very, very long time, and whether they are renewing one property, or two properties, or five properties, or 50 properties, or 4,000 properties, they go about it in exactly the same way.</text>
        <page num="1323" />
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000525">The way they go about it, Mr Speaker, as you well know, because a number of these people are constituents of yours, as they are of mine—there is a visit from the people representing Housing SA who talk to the people and make arrangements suitable to those people for alternative accommodation. In many if not most cases, there is an attempt made that the new properties which are the result of the development will be an opportunity for that person to return to the community from which they have come, except they return to the community from which they have come in a new property, which is probably more suitable to their requirements; and they often want to move.</text>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000526">Can I say also, Mr Speaker, that members might be surprised to know that there is a complete disconnect between the actual stock held by the Housing Trust, some 44,000 properties, and the actual requirements of the people who are the prime target audience for the Housing Trust service. In fact, most of the people who want these properties, you will find, are single people, or perhaps one or two people but a large number of single people looking for properties. Mr Speaker, you would know, as I know many people across there perhaps would know, that most of the properties are in fact not designed for single people at all, they are three-bedroom properties which were designed for the sort of cohort of people who used to be the primary group—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1813">
        <name>Ms REDMOND</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000527">
          <by role="member" id="1813">Ms REDMOND:</by>  Point of order, sir: the question was about the specifics of the contractual or lease arrangements entered into between the Housing Trust and the tenants and this answer is going nowhere near that.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000528">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  No; the Deputy Premier is in orbit but he is heading towards, by centrifugal force, the substance of the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1813" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Redmond</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000529">
          <by role="member" id="1813">Ms Redmond:</by>  Centrifugal force means further away, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000530">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  No, that's centripetal.</text>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000531">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201505143f4aaa68f7d8488bb0000532">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  I think that's pronounced Uranus. As I was trying to explain, this has been going on for a great deal of time. What we are doing now and in the future will be, on a larger scale, exactly what has happened in the past. The idea that people who are Housing Trust tenants should be frightened by correspondence from the member for Adelaide and the member for Bragg is, quite frankly, very, very annoying.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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