House of Assembly Fifty-Third Parliament, Second Session (53-2) 53 2 Parliament of South Australia House of Assembly published Question Time Gillman Land Sale Gillman Land Sale Ms CHAPMAN House of Assembly Bragg Deputy Leader of the Opposition Gillman Land Sale Ms CHAPMAN (Bragg—Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (14:52): Does the Premier deny that he had a meeting with a senior member of Renewal SA in the presence of the Deputy Premier and the now Treasurer during the assessment process? The Hon. J.R. RAU House of Assembly Enfield Deputy Premier Attorney-General Minister for Justice Reform Minister for Planning Minister for Housing and Urban Development Minister for Industrial Relations Minister for Child Protection Reform Gillman Land Sale The Hon. J.R. RAU (Enfield—Deputy Premier, Attorney-General, Minister for Justice Reform, Minister for Planning, Minister for Housing and Urban Development, Minister for Industrial Relations, Minister for Child Protection Reform) (14:54): In relation to this one, I did see today that InDaily had a piece about this. I did read it with some interest because it was basically new material from my point of view. Ms Chapman interjecting: The Hon. J.R. RAU House of Assembly The Hon. J.R. RAU: I beg your pardon? Ms Chapman House of Assembly Ms Chapman: Check the big pile of documents you gave to— The Hon. J.R. RAU House of Assembly The Hon. J.R. RAU: Yes, I understand that. The Hon. A. Koutsantonis interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: The Treasurer is warned. The Hon. J.R. RAU House of Assembly The Hon. J.R. RAU: I have to tell all members, including the deputy leader, that it is quite frequent for ministers to meet with public servants. Sometimes those public servants are public servants who respond directly to one as a minister, sometimes they are not. As to any particular meeting referred to in those documents with, I think it was Mr Buchan, I can say that as at that date, I was not the relevant minister to whom Mr Buchan reported. I can also say that from time to time, the Premier, the now Treasurer and I meet and have a talk about things. I have no recollection of any particular meeting with Mr Buchan, but that is not surprising, because one has many meetings which are not memorable—and that is no reflection on Mr Buchan, I might say—and it may or may not have been that there was such a meeting. I do not know; but, I do know that any assessment of the matter, as I was trying to say before, ultimately comes back to this: the decision-making body in this matter was the cabinet, and the cabinet made a decision, from which nobody is seeking to hide.