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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Goods and Services Tax</name>
      <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000535">
        <heading>Goods and Services Tax</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2014-12-04">
            <name>Goods and Services Tax</name>
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          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL (Dunstan—Leader of the Opposition) (15:05):</by>  Does the Treasurer accept that GST money from the commonwealth is untied, that it currently sits just short of $5 billion, and that there was a $338 million increase in that GST funding from the commonwealth this year and that he can use that money at his own discretion?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Finance</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for State Development</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Small Business</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2014-12-04">
            <name>Goods and Services Tax</name>
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        <page num="3276" />
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000537">
          <timeStamp time="2014-12-04T15:05:40" />
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens—Treasurer, Minister for Finance, Minister for State Development, Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy, Minister for Small Business) (15:05):</by>  Sir, if you want to suspend reality and past budgets, then yes. If you want to take out every single other budget decision ever made over the past four years, he would be right. But, of course, the government was not invented this year and has no history; the government is an ongoing concern. We have budgets every single year and we allocate spending on the basis of our best estimates of what GST will be.</text>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000538">The discretionary increase that the Leader of the Opposition is talking about from the latest figures is $8 million—$8 million, I am advised. So, if he thinks that $8 million is enough to cover a $101 million cut to our hospitals, to our schools, to our pensioners and to Gonski funding, he is sadly mistaken. I can tell you, and the health minister can tell you, and every member of this house can tell you that an ageing population presenting to our hospitals is growing at a rate of nearly 8 per cent per annum, as is the cost of delivering that service.</text>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000539">I can assure you, Mr Speaker, there is not a citizen in this state who expects us to deliver second-best health care or 1997 practice. The Leader of the Opposition is deliberately misleading the public—deliberately misleading the public, Mr Speaker—on this—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1813">
        <name>Ms REDMOND</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000540">
          <by role="member" id="1813">Ms REDMOND:</by>  Point of order, Mr Speaker: I do not believe that the Treasurer can accuse anyone of misleading in the house without a substantive motion to that effect, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000541">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I will withdraw, sir, for the ease of the house.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000542">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  That would be good.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000543">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I withdraw, sir. I will put oil on troubled waters because I know it is a very anxious day for the Leader of the Opposition.</text>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000544">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000545">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  It could be your last day in the chair!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000546">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000547">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I'm so sorry, sir, I will go back to the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000548">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  No, I am hoping it won't be my last day in the chair.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000549">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  No, sir; long may you last, and long may you prosper in your chair, with the wisdom of King Solomon. Can I just say I think the Leader of the Opposition is getting a bit white knuckled as we get closer and closer to Saturday.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000550">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Will the Treasurer return to the substance of the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000551">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Healthcare costs are growing every single year, and the tied grants that the commonwealth have cut that have been linked to health and education, I could not transfer that money that was assigned for non-government schools. So, what the Leader of the Opposition is actually telling me—</text>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000552">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000553">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  —is that the grant that I received—</text>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000554">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000555">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Mr Speaker, he is getting a little bit hysterical.</text>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000556">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000557">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  It will be over soon, don't worry. It will be over soon.</text>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000558">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000559">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Mr Speaker, I will gladly read it out. It is a Council for the Australian Federation communiqué dated 18 May 2014, Sydney:</text>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000560">
          <inserted>The unilateral termination of intergovernmental funding agreements, signed in good faith, is unacceptable.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000561">
          <inserted>The cuts to funding for States and Territories, and the manner in which they were imposed, will cause immediate and significant impacts on the hospital system—</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000562">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000563">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Hang on a second—</text>
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          <inserted>and permanent structural deterioration in the recurrent funding positions of State and Territory Governments.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000565">
          <inserted>With this in mind, [the Council for the Australian Federation]:</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000566">
          <inserted>1.&amp;#x9;Expresses grave concern that, contrary to the Prime Minister’s remarks today, there are immediate impacts on frontline services and the cost of living for Australians. For example, from 1 July 2014, there will be a reduction in funding for 1200 hospital beds across Australia and the withdrawal of over $300 million per year from concessions for pensioners and seniors…</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000567">Liberal premiers, Mr Speaker!</text>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000568">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000569">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Liberal premiers, Mr Speaker! A definition of a Liberal premier is a Liberal leader of the opposition that won an election. That is the definition, Mr Speaker, of a Liberal premier. Perhaps the Leader of the Opposition can stand up for South Australians, stand up for our hospitals, stand up for our schools and stop standing up for Tony Abbott.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201412043b37c1db4ee3461280000570">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I think the Treasurer is debating the answer. The member for MacKillop.</text>
      </talker>
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