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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Gillman Land Sale</name>
      <text id="20141203bbc729699274493980000704">
        <heading>Gillman Land Sale</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="question">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Bragg</electorate>
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            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2014-12-03">
            <name>Gillman Land Sale</name>
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        <startTime time="2014-12-03T15:02:05" />
        <text id="20141203bbc729699274493980000705">
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          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN (Bragg—Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (15:02):</by>  I will go to another question completely, if I am accepted; he will not answer that. My question is to—</text>
        <text id="20141203bbc729699274493980000706">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3119">The Hon. T.R. Kenyon interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20141203bbc729699274493980000707">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Newland is warned.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20141203bbc729699274493980000708">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  I will ask a question of the Treasurer. Now that the Treasurer has had two weeks to investigate whether Treasury officials advised the government to sell the land at Gillman or not via an open tender process, did the Treasurer confirm whether this has been the case?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Finance</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for State Development</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Small Business</name>
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        <startTime time="2014-12-03T15:02:35" />
        <text id="20141203bbc729699274493980000709">
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          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens—Treasurer, Minister for Finance, Minister for State Development, Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy, Minister for Small Business) (15:02):</by>  Regardless of any advice Treasury may or may not have given me or whoever the treasurer was at the time, cabinet has made a decision and collectively we agree with that decision. One of the principles—</text>
        <text id="20141203bbc729699274493980000710">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20141203bbc729699274493980000711">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  This is my answer. One of the principles of our system of government is that the cabinet is the decision-making body which oversees how these decisions are made. The government can at any time choose to sell a piece of land without going to tender or through an unsolicited bid—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20141203bbc729699274493980000712">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Point of order, Mr Speaker. Perhaps the Treasurer is misunderstanding, but I asked the Treasurer two weeks ago whether he was aware of any advice that had been given by any other officials to Treasury in respect of the advice on the Gillman land nothing to do with cabinet decisions at all, and he indicated that he would get that answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20141203bbc729699274493980000713">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20141203bbc729699274493980000714">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  So I am asking the Treasurer—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20141203bbc729699274493980000715">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Has he got the answer? Yes, okay. We've got that.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20141203bbc729699274493980000716">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Cabinet is the decision-making body and any advice that is sought by any minister goes to cabinet. So, if Treasury advice was sought, if a costing comment was sought, if the personal opinions of Treasury officials were sought or given, they go to the cabinet.</text>
        <text id="20141203bbc729699274493980000717">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3121">Mr Pengilly interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20141203bbc729699274493980000718">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  That is the process. Cabinet is a body that sits above the executive, for the benefit of the member for Finniss who will never sit on a cabinet, and that process is the supreme decision-making body of the government. When we make decisions, it goes to Executive Council for endorsement by the Crown. If that advice, whatever it is, is sent to the cabinet, the cabinet is within its rights to accept or refuse that advice. It is not for the Treasury, or any other agency, to sit above the cabinet process. They are simply there to inform us.</text>
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