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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Families SA Internal Audit</name>
      <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000444">
        <heading>Families SA Internal Audit</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
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            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2014-10-15">
            <name>Families SA Internal Audit</name>
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        <startTime time="2014-10-15T14:18:21" />
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000445">
          <timeStamp time="2014-10-15T14:18:21" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL (Dunstan—Leader of the Opposition) (14:18):</by>  Is the minister suggesting that there is no need to review the pre-employment checks or the files to conduct a desktop audit for the other 1,500 Families SA staff that weren't part of Mal Hyde's desktop review?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Wright</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Education and Child Development</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2014-10-15">
            <name>Families SA Internal Audit</name>
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        <startTime time="2014-10-15T14:18:39" />
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000446">
          <timeStamp time="2014-10-15T14:18:39" />
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE (Wright—Minister for Education and Child Development) (14:18):</by>  Sir, we currently have a royal commission underway looking into the operations of Families SA. Can I say, sir, we are not alone. These circumstances in relation to child protection are not unique to South Australia. Every state is grappling—every state is grappling with challenges in child protection, but we face up to the challenges here in South Australia. In Victoria—let me just tell you about Victoria—in Victoria—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000447">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman:</by>  What about South Australia?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000448">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The deputy leader is warned for the second and final time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000449">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  Thank you, sir. Well, if they do not want to hear about Victoria—</text>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000450">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="3121">Mr Pengilly interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000451">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Finniss is called to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000452">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  If they don't want to hear about Victoria, sir, let me talk about South Australia. In South Australia, we introduced the Guardian for Children and Young People. In South Australia, we established the Child Death and Serious Injury Review Committee. In South Australia, we established the Council for the Care of Children. We established the Health and Community Services Complaints Commission. </text>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000453">We established two Mullighan inquiries. We provided funding to advocacy organisations like CREATE and Connecting Foster Carers. We increased the number of family-based carers to provide for children who cannot stay with their birth families. We increased the number of kinship carers by 700 per cent. Since 2002, we have gone from—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000454">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000455">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Point of order, member for Morialta.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000456">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  Unless the minister is indicating that all of these people are going to be subject to the desktop audit, she is now completely irrelevant to the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000457">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  What was the question again?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000458">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  The question was whether the minister was saying that the desktop audit was unnecessary for the other Families SA staff.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000459">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000460">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  Thank you, sir. We have gone from 147 kinship placements in South Australia, in 2001 under the Liberals—and that is family members providing care for children—to 1,190 placements currently. We established a new incident management division in the department. We have a screening audit for educators.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000461">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000462">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The minister is offering information pertinent to the screening of other staff. Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000463">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  I don't think that she is doing that. She hasn't indicated that any of these people are going to be screened at all.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000464">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The minister is offering information about what her department does. You may regard what they do as inadequate, but the minister is offering that information, which is in order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="2291" />
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000465">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by> We have established a multiagency protection service. We have established the Strong Start program, helping first-time mums care for and protect their babies. We have had more than 100,000 universal contact visits since we introduced that program. We have established 41 children's centres. Each and every one of those people involved in one-on-one contact with children has criminal history checks and background screening checks.</text>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000466">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000467">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The minister will not refer to the celebrated Mount Gambier kidney.</text>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000468">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000469">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Sir—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000470">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I anticipate the point of order, and I will deal with it now. After I have acted, the deputy leader may or may not want to raise a point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000471">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman:</by>  I will listen with interest, but I was coming to your defence.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000472">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The minister is called to order and warned a first time, not just for disorderly expressions such as referring to members in the second person but also for rising when she did not have the call and shouting across the chamber. Does that deal with the matter?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201410153c5738194825442c80000473">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Excellent ruling, sir.</text>
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