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  <date date="2014-09-17" />
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Emergency Services Levy</name>
      <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000571">
        <heading>Emergency Services Levy</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4840" kind="question">
        <name>Mr TARZIA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hartley</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2014-09-17">
            <name>Emergency Services Levy</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2014-09-17T14:45:14" />
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000572">
          <timeStamp time="2014-09-17T14:45:14" />
          <by role="member" id="4840">Mr TARZIA (Hartley) (14:45):</by>  Supplementary to the Treasurer: the Altavilla club has brought me their ESL bills which demonstrate that their liability has increased from $178.70 last year to $640.50 this year. My question is: does the Treasurer believe that this 258 per cent bill rise, and similar rises for other sports and community clubs, will reduce the viability of community associations across the state?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Marshall</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000573">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall:</by>  Yes, it will, it absolutely will.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000574">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The leader is warned. Treasurer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Finance</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for State Development</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Small Business</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2014-09-17T14:45:44" />
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000575">
          <timeStamp time="2014-09-17T14:45:44" />
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens—Treasurer, Minister for Finance, Minister for State Development, Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy, Minister for Small Business) (14:45):</by>  It is interesting that the member for Hartley has not raised once the $4.1 million worth of cuts by the commonwealth to his schools in his electorate. It seems to me that he is very interested—</text>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000576">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000577">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I know. I would be interested to know what the member for Hartley's—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3124">
        <name>Mr PISONI</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000578">
          <by role="member" id="3124">Mr PISONI:</by>  Point of order sir. This is about the emergency services levy, not the federal budget.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000579">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes, I uphold the point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000580">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Mr Speaker, I would be interested to know what the member for Hartley's emergency services levy bill is.</text>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000581">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000582">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Yes, perhaps he should ask his mum for it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000583">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  If the member for Hartley's lips move out of order, he will be joining the member for MacKillop, who is welcome to rejoin us. Come back: all is forgiven.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000584">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Mr Speaker, it seems to me that the increases to the emergency services levy through the removal of remissions can be reversed at a moment's notice.</text>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000585">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4339">Mr Whetstone interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000586">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  All it takes is for the commonwealth government to maintain its commitment to our hospitals, our schools and our pensioners.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3121">
        <name>Mr PENGILLY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000587">
          <by role="member" id="3121">Mr PENGILLY:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000588">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I have a point of order before the member for Finniss has his. I heard the member for Chaffey's interjection, and he will rise and apologise for it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000589">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  I'm not sure you heard it correctly, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000590">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  No, I did hear it correctly. It was reference to a member's mother.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4339">
        <name>Mr WHETSTONE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000591">
          <by role="member" id="4339">Mr WHETSTONE:</by>  Mr Speaker, he made a reference to the member for Hartley's mother.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000592">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  You will apologise now or you will be leaving the chamber.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4339">
        <name>Mr WHETSTONE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000593">
          <by role="member" id="4339">Mr WHETSTONE:</by>  Sir, I would like some clarification around the Treasurer's reference to the member for Hartley's mother.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000594">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I didn't hear that and, if someone wants to take that point of order, they may. Meanwhile, the member for Chaffey will leave the chamber for an hour.</text>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000595">
          <term>The honourable member for Chaffey having withdrawn from the chamber:</term>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000596">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  Point of order, sir. The Treasurer has made a reference to the member for Hartley's mother that the member for Chaffey has unfortunately responded to against your ruling. Earlier today, he made a reference to members being schizophrenic, yesterday he made a reference to someone having Tourette's. These offensive answers are provocative—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000597">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I will deal with them seriatim, but does someone wish to take the point that the Treasurer is out of order about something that occurred in the last two minutes?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000598">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  Yes, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000599">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  And what is that?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000600">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  My point of order is that it is unparliamentary language and offensive language.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000601">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  And what was that?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4343">
        <name>Mr GARDNER</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000602">
          <by role="member" id="4343">Mr GARDNER:</by>  It was the comment that was made in the reference to the member for Hartley's mother.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000603">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  But what was that?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="1709" />
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000604">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Mr Speaker, I said the member for Hartley could provide his emergency services bill and, if he doesn't have it, to ask his parents for it. I didn't mean any offence by it at all, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000605">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I'm sorry, what did the Treasurer say?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000606">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  To provide his emergency services levy bill. I didn't mean to cause any offence; if I did, I apologise.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000607">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Good, thank you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4840">
        <name>Mr TARZIA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000608">
          <by role="member" id="4840">Mr TARZIA:</by>  I think we can operate in a much more professional manner moving forward, but I take no offence at that, thank you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201409178f897ef01a9640fbb0000609">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Thank you. The member for Reynell.</text>
      </talker>
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