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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Emergency Services Levy</name>
      <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000551">
        <heading>Emergency Services Levy</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
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            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2014-09-16">
            <name>Emergency Services Levy</name>
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        <startTime time="2014-09-16T14:26:30" />
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          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL (Dunstan—Leader of the Opposition) (14:26):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Do emergency services operators’ premises have increases in their ESL bills as a result of government changes?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Finance</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for State Development</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Small Business</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2014-09-16">
            <name>Emergency Services Levy</name>
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        <startTime time="2014-09-16T14:26:43" />
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000553">
          <timeStamp time="2014-09-16T14:26:43" />
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens—Treasurer, Minister for Finance, Minister for State Development, Minister for Mineral Resources and Energy, Minister for Small Business) (14:26):</by>  All South Australians, excluding pensioners and the appropriate beneficiaries of benefits, have received an increase in their emergency services levy, but what we have done is protected pensioners. Pensioners are the most vulnerable in our community from the cruellest and harshest realities of the Abbott government. We have done it—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4339" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Whetstone</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000554">
          <by role="member" id="4339">Mr Whetstone:</by>  You are the worst treasurer this state’s had.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000555">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for Chaffey is warned for the first time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000556">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  We have done it to protect people from the harsh reality of the cuts being made by the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister has targeted those who are most vulnerable in our community.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3121">
        <name>Mr PENGILLY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000557">
          <by role="member" id="3121">Mr PENGILLY:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000558">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Point of order, member for Finniss.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3121">
        <name>Mr PENGILLY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000559">
          <by role="member" id="3121">Mr PENGILLY:</by>  The federal government is not responsible for the ESL in South Australia and the rate of increase.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000560">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  That is a bogus point of order. It may be a point of varying weight, but it is an entirely bogus point of order and I call the member for Finniss to order and warn him for the first and the second time. Treasurer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000561">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Currently, the regional cities and towns of Berri, Goolwa, Kadina, Loxton, Millicent, Mount Barker, Mount Gambier, Murray Bridge, Naracoorte, Nuriootpa, Port Augusta, Port Lincoln, Port Pirie, Renmark, Tanunda, Victor Harbor and Whyalla receive a 20 per cent discount on their bill. Country areas outside those listed major towns receive a 50 per cent discount on their bill and those outside council areas receive a 90 per cent discount on their bill because that has always been in place.</text>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000562">I notice the Leader of the Opposition is asking: will volunteers be exempted? Will these increases be reversed? He is saying that they are hurting people. What we have not heard from the Leader of the Opposition is, if he is elected premier in three years’ time, if he makes it—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000563">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000564">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I call the Treasurer to order. Member for Stuart, that makes you happy? You will not need to proceed with your point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000565">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  So long as he abides by standing order 98, I will be happy.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000566">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes. Treasurer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000567">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Those remissions I talked about remain in place. They are unchanged. Yes, emergency services volunteers who volunteer in the CFS and the SES do pay the emergency services levy unless—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1813">
        <name>Ms REDMOND</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000568">
          <by role="member" id="1813">Ms REDMOND:</by>  I believe the Treasurer is answering a question that was not asked. The Leader of the Opposition’s question was about premises occupied by organisations that pay the emergency services levy, not about the volunteers.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000569">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Treasurer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="1624" />
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000570">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The government pays emergency services on all its facilities. In fact, I received my bill as Treasurer only the other day. Of course, it all can be reversed with the stroke of a pen if the Prime Minister reverses over the next four years his cuts to health, $655 million; his cuts to concession funding for pensioners, $123 million; $47 million in cuts to skills funding; and of course his lie on Gonski of $73 million. These cuts of $898 million made by the commonwealth—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000571">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Point of order. Member for Bragg.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000572">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  This is clearly debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000573">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I will listen carefully to what the Treasurer has to say.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000574">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The government has made it very clear we didn't want to increase or remove remissions from the emergency services levy. I will point out that the rate of the emergency services levy is lower today than it was in 2001 and 2002 when the opposition was last in government.</text>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000575">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000576">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  What sort of remissions were in place? I am glad the Leader of the Opposition acknowledges that remissions have been removed because the whole premise of his question was that we were increasing the rate, increasing taxes. What we have done is taken away those discounts, but we haven't taken those discounts to the bottom line. What we have done is put them into health and education to make the shortfall on your friends' cuts that you have made to health and education. All they have to do is use their special relationship with Tony Abbott.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000577">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Point of order by the deputy leader.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000578">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  As poor as this may be, it is still debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000579">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  If I were to criticise the Treasurer's response, it would be for referring to the opposition in the second person. Treasurer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000580">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I have completed, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2014091627a0ee00f3014da690000581">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Treasurer has finished the answer. A supplementary from the leader.</text>
      </talker>
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