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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Commissioner for Public Sector Employment</name>
      <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000593">
        <heading>Commissioner for Public Sector Employment</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Dunstan</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2014-07-03">
            <name>Commissioner for Public Sector Employment</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2014-07-03T14:51:14" />
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000594">
          <timeStamp time="2014-07-03T14:51:14" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL (Dunstan—Leader of the Opposition) (14:51):</by>  My question is to the Minister for the Public Sector. Now that the minister has had 24 hours, has she asked why Ms Ranieri told staff of the Office of Public Employment and Review and the Public Sector Workforce Relations Agency prior to the convening of the senior management council's selection panel that she would be taking over as the Commissioner for Public Sector Employment from 1 July 2014?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4622" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. S.E. CLOSE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Port Adelaide</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Manufacturing and Innovation</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Automotive Transformation</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the Public Sector</name>
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        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2014-07-03">
            <name>Commissioner for Public Sector Employment</name>
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        <startTime time="2014-07-03T14:51:44" />
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000595">
          <timeStamp time="2014-07-03T14:51:44" />
          <by role="member" id="4622">The Hon. S.E. CLOSE (Port Adelaide—Minister for Manufacturing and Innovation, Minister for Automotive Transformation, Minister for the Public Sector) (14:51):</by>  As I said yesterday, I have absolutely no evidence that what you are saying is correct. I asked if the Leader of the Opposition had such evidence if he could furnish it. I do not believe that there is any.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000596">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Does the Leader of the Opposition vouch to the house that such evidence exists?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000597">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL:</by>  We are asking the minister to clarify. This is a person who reports to the minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000598">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The practice of the house is that if a conjectural fact is used in a question, the questioner must vouch to the house for its accuracy. Does the leader so vouch?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000599">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL:</by>  That's certainly the information that we have received, from multiple sources, sir.</text>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000600">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000601">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Well, I'm just asking.</text>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000602">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000603">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I'm asking the leader—</text>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000604">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000605">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER  Order!</by> Does the leader vouch to the house for the accuracy of the assumption on which the question is based?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000606">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL:</by>  We certainly believe it to be true and we're asking the minister to clarify. We asked the minister yesterday. She's had 24 hours and she should be able to provide this house with an update.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000607">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  All I am saying is, if the leader proves to be wrong, there are procedural consequences.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000608">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL:</by>  We are asking a question for the minister to clarify.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000609">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Well, no; you're asking a question on an assertion of fact.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000610">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL:</by>  Well, it's on an assertion that information has been provided to the opposition, from multiple sources, and we're asking the minister to clarify whether it's correct or not.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000611">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  I'm afraid information 'provided from multiple sources' isn't good enough. You've asked a question based on—</text>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000612">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000613">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000614">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS:</by>  Point of order, Mr Speaker.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000615">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000616">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS:</by>  Are you about to move a substantive motion?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000617">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  No, I'm not, but—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="1165" />
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000618">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS:</by>  Well, Mr Speaker—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000619">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  What I'm doing—I'll answer the point of order, on what the point of order is: that where a question contains an assertion of fact the practice and procedure of houses of British origin is that the questioner vouches to the house for the accuracy of the fact. So you can't say, 'A little bird told me.'</text>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000620">
          <event kind="interjection">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Williams</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000621">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr Williams:</by>  What about a flock of little birds, Mr Speaker?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000622">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  Neither a flock. And before the leader resumes questioning, I warn the member for Hammond for the second time, and I call the member for Adelaide to order. Leader. I am taking it that the leader is now vouching for the accuracy of the fact.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000623">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL:</by>  I am happy to rephrase the question, sir. I will rephrase the question if that helps, sir: will the minister undertake to find out whether or not Ms Ranieri was telling people, in multiple agencies of this government, prior to her appointment, that she had been promised that job?</text>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000624">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. Rankine interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker kind="speech" role="office">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201407030feaff51e51e45f780000625">
          <by role="office">The SPEAKER:</by>  The Minister for Education is warned for the first time. I am going to rule the question out of order because it is customarily out of order for a question to be: can the minister comment on the accuracy of a rumour? You just can't do it. The member for Torrens.</text>
      </talker>
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