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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Planning Strategy</name>
      <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000410">
        <heading>PLANNING STRATEGY</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="question">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Bragg</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2013-11-13">
            <name>PLANNING STRATEGY</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2013-11-13T14:29:00" />
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000411">
          <timeStamp time="2013-11-13T14:29:00" />
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN (Bragg—Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (14:29):</by>  A supplementary to the Minister for Planning—</text>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000412">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3123">
        <name>The Deputy Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000413">
          <by role="member" id="3123">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000414">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Given the minister's claim that the industry and South Australians want certainty, when is he going to release his position on the Roseworthy development, which he has now held for two years?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Enfield</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Attorney-General</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Planning</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industrial Relations</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Business Services and Consumers</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2013-11-13T14:29:00" />
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000415">
          <timeStamp time="2013-11-13T14:29:00" />
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU (Enfield—Deputy Premier, Attorney-General, Minister for Planning, Minister for Industrial Relations, Minister for Business Services and Consumers) (14:29):</by>  Well, well, well. I would like to ask the deputy leader to please come and sit on this side of the house. Let's go through this.</text>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000416">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3123">
        <name>The Deputy Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000417">
          <by role="member" id="3123">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The minister has the call.</text>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000418">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="81">Mr Gardner interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3123">
        <name>The Deputy Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000419">
          <by role="member" id="3123">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:  </by>Order, the member for Morialta!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000420">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  Can I commence by saying that according to—is it <term>The Bunyip</term>? Is <term>The Bunyip</term> the paper?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. Snelling</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000421">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. Snelling:</by>  It is <term>The Bunyip</term>.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000422">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  According to <term>The Bunyip</term>—</text>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000423">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="7755" />
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000424">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  There was another display, almost. According to <term>The Bunyip</term>, when quizzed by the intrepid journalist at <term>The Bunyip</term>, the shadow spokesperson on planning, who is none other than the deputy leader, said they didn't have a position. They hadn't worked it out. They don't know.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000425">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman:</by>  So, what's the answer? What are you going to do?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000426">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  I would like to know—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000427">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman:</by>  What are you going to do?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3123">
        <name>The Deputy Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000428">
          <by role="member" id="3123">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000429">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  I would like to know, and so would all the people in South Australia—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000430">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman:</by>  Two years.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3123">
        <name>The Deputy Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000431">
          <by role="member" id="3123">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</by>  The minister has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000432">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  —what position—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Marshall</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000433">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall:</by>  Well, you're the government. You're the minister. You're the government.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3123">
        <name>The Deputy Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000434">
          <by role="member" id="3123">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:  </by>Order, Leader of the Opposition! The minister has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000435">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  I would like to know.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3123">
        <name>The Deputy Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000436">
          <by role="member" id="3123">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</by>  Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1813">
        <name>Mrs REDMOND</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000437">
          <by role="member" id="1813">Mrs REDMOND:</by>  My understanding of question time was that it wasn't for the minister to ask questions of the opposition, but rather to receive questions from the opposition and answer them.</text>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000438">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3123">
        <name>The Deputy Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000439">
          <by role="member" id="3123">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:  </by>Order! I am sure the minister is coming to the answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000440">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  I am indeed. Their position is they don't have a position, which is their normal position. It is their default position. Their default position is no position. So, what position is it? Now, let's go through the facts. Let's try a few facts, because that's something that you don't have a lot of in most of the—sorry, that those opposite don't have a lot of. I didn't mean to refer to you in that way, Mr Deputy Speaker; I apologise.</text>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000441">The situation is this: according to the 30-year plan, there was a 30-year time frame over which there was an allocation of potential lands for redevelopment on the periphery of Adelaide. There are a great many assumptions underpinning that plan. One of them was that there should be, at any one time, a 15-year supply of zoned residential peripheral land.</text>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000442">Again, in <term>The Bunyip</term>, Mr Carr, I think it is, from the Light Regional Council, made the request of <term>The Bunyip</term>, I think, and indirectly me, that there be a rezone immediately of Roseworthy. Bear in mind everybody—those of you who don't know—Roseworthy potentially is a place that is big enough to accommodate 100,000 people, right? He wants that rezoned immediately, and so do certain other individuals to whom, I suspect, the opposition has been talking.</text>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000443">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3123">
        <name>The Deputy Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000444">
          <by role="member" id="3123">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000445">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  I have made it clear in this house and other places many times, from the time shortly after I became Minister for Planning, and I will say it again: if you want to try and unpick what ultimately was the defect in the process associated with Mount Barker—something which the member for Kavel and others constantly remind me about—what was it? It was: rezone and let it work itself out later. It was: rezone and let it all rip—it will work itself out eventually.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000446">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman:</by>  Why don't you tell the truth?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3123">
        <name>The Deputy Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000447">
          <by role="member" id="3123">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="7756" />
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000448">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  Those opposite have been berating me for three years about the consequences of doing that: the consequences of rezoning without any consideration for land supply, without any consideration of demand and, importantly, without any consideration for the impact on the infrastructure requirements of the state Treasury, way beyond the forward estimates. What those opposite are on about is having a system where future taxpayers and their children subsidise people today—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000449">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000450">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman:</by>  Let him keep going. I want them all on the record.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3123">
        <name>The Deputy Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000451">
          <by role="member" id="3123">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:  </by>Order! I would like to hear the point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000452">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  It won't surprise anybody that twice now the Minister for Planning has exceeded the time allowed to get back with an answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3123">
        <name>The Deputy Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2013111324427087f60d449b90000453">
          <by role="member" id="3123">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</by>  I am saddened to say that the minister has used up his full allotment. Member for Mitchell.</text>
      </talker>
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