<!--The Official Report of Parliamentary Debates (Hansard) of the Legislative Council and the House of Assembly of the Parliament of South Australia are covered by parliamentary privilege. Republication by others is not afforded the same protection and may result in exposure to legal liability if the material is defamatory. You may copy and make use of excerpts of proceedings where (1) you attribute the Parliament as the source, (2) you assume the risk of liability if the manner of your use is defamatory, (3) you do not use the material for the purpose of advertising, satire or ridicule, or to misrepresent members of Parliament, and (4) your use of the extracts is fair, accurate and not misleading. Copyright in the Official Report of Parliamentary Debates is held by the Attorney-General of South Australia.-->
<hansard id="" tocId="" xml:lang="EN-AU" schemaVersion="1.0" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xmlns:xml="http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:mml="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="hansard_1_0.xsd">
  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2013-11-13" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Second Parliament, Second Session (52-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>52</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>House of Assembly</house>
  <venue></venue>
  <reviewStage>published</reviewStage>
  <startPage num="7727" />
  <endPage num="7804" />
  <dateModified time="2022-08-06T14:30:00+00:00" />
  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Enterprise Patient Administration System</name>
      <text id="201311137aaa29e65e8c426580000376">
        <heading>ENTERPRISE PATIENT ADMINISTRATION SYSTEM</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Norwood</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2013-11-13">
            <name>ENTERPRISE PATIENT ADMINISTRATION SYSTEM</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2013-11-13T14:21:00" />
        <text id="201311137aaa29e65e8c426580000377">
          <timeStamp time="2013-11-13T14:21:00" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL (Norwood—Leader of the Opposition) (14:21):</by>  Yes, sir. Can I just clarify that? When you say it is on budget, you are saying that it is under the original total budget, but what is what they refer to in the industry as the 'earned value' of the project to date, which is the expenditure relative to the position on the project schedule, and what is the blowout in earned value to date?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Playford</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Health and Ageing</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Mental Health and Substance Abuse</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Defence Industries</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Veterans' Affairs</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2013-11-13">
            <name>ENTERPRISE PATIENT ADMINISTRATION SYSTEM</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2013-11-13T14:22:00" />
        <text id="201311137aaa29e65e8c426580000378">
          <timeStamp time="2013-11-13T14:22:00" />
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING (Playford—Minister for Health and Ageing, Minister for Mental Health and Substance Abuse, Minister for Defence Industries, Minister for Veterans' Affairs) (14:22):</by>  Well, there is no blowout, and it is incorrect to suggest there is.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Marshall</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201311137aaa29e65e8c426580000379">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall:</by>  Get a briefing.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201311137aaa29e65e8c426580000380">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  Perhaps the Leader of the Opposition should get a briefing. Whenever the Leader of the Opposition is looking a bit foolish in the house because he doesn't know what he is talking about, he interjects, 'Get a briefing, get a briefing, get a briefing.' Like the trained galah in the pet shop, all he can say is, 'Get a briefing.' What a dill!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201311137aaa29e65e8c426580000381">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> The member for Heysen.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1813">
        <name>Mrs REDMOND</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201311137aaa29e65e8c426580000382">
          <by role="member" id="1813">Mrs REDMOND:</by>  I was about to comment that the minister surely was debating in the way he referred to the feelings and state of the Leader of the Opposition.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201311137aaa29e65e8c426580000383">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> I agree with the member for Heysen. Accordingly, the Minister for Health is warned for the first time and he will withdraw the reference to the Leader of the Opposition as being like a cockatoo.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201311137aaa29e65e8c426580000384">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  A galah, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201311137aaa29e65e8c426580000385">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> A galah—sorry.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="7753" />
        <text id="201311137aaa29e65e8c426580000386">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  Happy to withdraw, if the Leader of the Opposition is offended. However, with regard to the EPAS project—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201311137aaa29e65e8c426580000387">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> No, the minister will withdraw unconditionally. It is an unparliamentary expression, and there is a long tradition of 'galah' being an unparliamentary expression. He should know, as a former Speaker.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201311137aaa29e65e8c426580000388">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  I am justly rebuked, Mr Speaker, justly rebuked. With regard to the EPAS project, the EPAS project is expected to be completed on budget. Of course, in any project, there will be times when you are spending more and spending less money. In the early stages of the project, you will spend more money because you have to train more people. As EPAS is progressively rolled out, you will find people who are working across multiple hospital sites, for example, who will not need to be retrained.</text>
        <text id="201311137aaa29e65e8c426580000389">The simple fact is that, as the project goes on and a certain number of people have been trained and certain things have already happened, the rate of spend over the life of the project reduces. Of course, in the early stages of the project—which I think is what the Leader of the Opposition is getting at or attempting to get at or someone has told him—you are going to be spending more money than you are in the later stages of the project. There is nothing unusual in that, but the simple fact is that EPAS is expected to be rolled out with the current budget allocation that it has been given. I have been provided with no advice contrary to that.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
</hansard>