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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>National Disability Insurance Scheme</name>
      <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000580">
        <heading>NATIONAL DISABILITY INSURANCE SCHEME</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="question">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Bragg</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2013-05-02">
            <name>NATIONAL DISABILITY INSURANCE SCHEME</name>
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        <startTime time="2013-05-02T15:01:00" />
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000581">
          <timeStamp time="2013-05-02T15:01:00" />
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN (Bragg—Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (15:01):</by>  My question again is to the Minister for Disabilities. Will the residents—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. A. Koutsantonis</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000582">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis:</by>  I have held two press conferences in two days and you haven't asked me a question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="5426" />
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000583">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> The transport minister is warned for the second and final time. If he is not careful he will be ejected for the rest of question time.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000584">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Will South Australian residents affected by dust diseases such as mesothelioma be covered by the NDIS, NIIS or the state insurances? Given the Attorney-General's previous answer that there were still discussions in relation to the NIIS, if there is no resolution of this matter, what is the government's position as to who should be paying it?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Enfield</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Attorney-General</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Planning</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industrial Relations</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Business Services and Consumers</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2013-05-02T15:02:00" />
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000585">
          <timeStamp time="2013-05-02T15:02:00" />
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU (Enfield—Deputy Premier, Attorney-General, Minister for Planning, Minister for Industrial Relations, Minister for Business Services and Consumers) (15:02):</by>  In answer to that question, I think it has already been made clear that, because the deputy leader is asking a question that includes an element which is an unknown—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000586">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman:</by>  I am asking what you have asked for.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1810" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.R. RAU</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000587">
          <by role="member" id="1810">The Hon. J.R. RAU:</by>  I do not want to labour the point, but Donald Rumsfeld once said, 'There's the known knowns, the known unknowns and the unknown unknowns,' and the honourable member keeps inserting an unknown unknown into the known knowns and the known unknowns, which makes it impossible for anyone to know the answer.</text>
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000588">
          <event>There being a disturbance in the gallery:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000589">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> The minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3117">
        <name>The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000590">
          <by role="member" id="3117">The Hon. L.W.K. BIGNELL:</by>  A point of order: we have someone up in that gallery using flash photography.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000591">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> Yes, would the security please obtain that camera and bring it to me.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="563">
        <name>The Hon. I.F. EVANS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000592">
          <by role="member" id="563">The Hon. I.F. EVANS:</by>  Point of order: if that is the Speaker's intention, can you also ask security to secure the camera of the gentleman up here who was taking photos from that gallery for all of question time?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000593">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> That does not violate my ruling against flash photography. The deputy leader.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000594">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Point of order, Mr Speaker: I know that you are very, very wise and clever, but even you would not have been able to see the person positioned in <term>The Advertiser</term> box or whether it was flashing, and I would ask that you at least make an inquiry—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000595">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> When it is brought to me I will see whether it is flash photography or not.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000596">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Thank you. My question is to the Minister for Disabilities.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1">Members interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000598">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  I have the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201305020a04466a9a824974a0000599">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> I gave you the call but you utilised the call as a point of order rather than a question. The motion now is that the house note grievances. I call the member for Unley.</text>
      </talker>
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