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  <date date="2013-04-11" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Second Parliament, Second Session (52-2)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Employment Figures</name>
      <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000507">
        <heading>EMPLOYMENT FIGURES</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="question">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Norwood</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2013-04-11">
            <name>EMPLOYMENT FIGURES</name>
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        <startTime time="2013-04-11T14:30:00" />
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000508">
          <timeStamp time="2013-04-11T14:30:00" />
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL (Norwood—Leader of the Opposition) (14:30):</by>  Given the Premier's answer that 2,000 people is statistically meaningless, can the Premier—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000509">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> I don't actually think the Premier said that.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000510">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL:</by>  He did say that, sir, last <term>Hansard</term>—not today, but previously.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000511">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> Previously—okay.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000512">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL:</by>  Can he perhaps reflect on the total increase in unemployment in the northern suburbs, then, an increase from 15,000 to 19,000? And are those 19,000 people who are unemployed in our northern suburbs also completely meaningless?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000513">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> That is a better formulation of the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000514">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL:</by>  Thank you, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="5164" />
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000515">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> The Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Marshall</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000516">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall:</by>  19,000 people.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000517">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> I call the leader to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1812" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Cheltenham</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for State Development</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the Public Sector</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the Arts</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2013-04-11T14:31:00" />
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000518">
          <timeStamp time="2013-04-11T14:31:00" />
          <by role="member" id="1812">The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL (Cheltenham—Premier, Treasurer, Minister for State Development, Minister for the Public Sector, Minister for the Arts) (14:31):</by>  I thank the honourable member for his question. Just repeating something with increasing levels of anger does not actually make the point any more cogent. We have said repeatedly that the way in which the opposition has promoted these statistics about youth unemployment—many years ago when youth unemployment was a particular focus, decades ago, when many of these young people were not in fact in school, the statistic obviously gained a certain currency in the public policy debate. That same statistic is used today in a way which really has very little relevance to the true issues at stake.</text>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000519">That is the simple point that we have made. We have never made the point—and it is offensive to suggest that we have made the point—that any one person being made unemployed is not anything other than a personal tragedy for that person and something that this side of the house has always regarded as its key project and purpose. That is why I flew to Detroit and I think, before the wheels were actually down on the ground, the opposition was saying that that was a meaningless trip, a pointless trip, that I should not be there advocating for the people of the north.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3124">
        <name>Mr PISONI</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000520">
          <by role="member" id="3124">Mr PISONI:</by>  Point of order, sir. Again, I refer you to 137. You have warned the Premier time and time again about introducing debate into answers to questions, and he continues to do so.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000521">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> The question, as I recall, was formulated as, 'Why does the Premier keep on saying...?' Therefore the leader was asking the Premier what is in his mind and the Premier is now sharing that with us. It is a rather open-ended question and, accordingly, I warn the member for Unley for the second time for a frivolous and vexatious point of order that is obstructing the business of the house. Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1812">
        <name>The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000522">
          <by role="member" id="1812">The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL:</by>  We hear a bit about bipartisanship in these matters. When I took my journey to Detroit to try to secure the jobs of 16,000 people in the northern suburbs—the very issue that we are talking about—it was described by the opposition as a waste of taxpayers' dollars. So much for bipartisanship; you wonder why the hand of bipartisanship is not extended to you. The wheels were not even on the tarmac and you were describing the visit as a complete waste of taxpayers' dollars and you want to be in—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000523">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Point of order, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000524">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> Point of order from the deputy leader.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000525">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Clearly, this is debate and, in addition to that, the issue is relevance to the question, which was: 'Does the Premier agree that 19,000 unemployed in the northern suburbs is also a meaningless statistic?'</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000526">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> The Premier—well, it was a supplementary, wasn't it? It was a supplementary where the original question was 'Why does the Premier say...?' The supplementary is so open ended that the Premier is telling you why he doesn't agree. Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1812">
        <name>The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000527">
          <by role="member" id="1812">The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL:</by>  We've heard a lot about bipartisanship in the face of pressures on unemployment rates in the northern suburbs. That has essentially been the motif of the Leader of the Opposition this week.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000528">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Point of order, sir: how can this possibly not be debate?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000529">
          <by role="member" id="531">The SPEAKER: </by> I warn the deputy leader for the second time for a frivolous—would the Premier be seated—and vexatious point of order that is obstructing the business of the house, and the deputy leader will go out next time she makes a point of order like that. Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1812">
        <name>The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="5165" />
        <text id="201304114b45388443d34ce3a0000530">
          <by role="member" id="1812">The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL:</by>  This idea of bipartisanship is being advanced, yet we have the most partisan of attacks. How could anybody seriously suggest that I, or anybody in this chamber, regard unemployment of any substantial number of citizens of this state as a meaningless statistic? It is game playing with words. Everyone here knows that the points we were making were about the use of that youth unemployment statistic, used in a way and juxtapositioned to the general unemployment rate, and calculated to create an impression in the mind of the community that the situation was so much worse in the northern suburbs than people might otherwise imagine. That degrades the morale of people. If the key issue in this state, and indeed in this nation, is confidence—and we know it is because we have relatively low unemployment rates, we have relatively low inflation rates, we have relatively strong growth rates—how on earth could that contribution do anything other than damage confidence?</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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