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  <sessionName>Fifty-Second Parliament, Second Session (52-2)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Environment, Water and Natural Resources Department</name>
      <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000859">
        <heading>ENVIRONMENT, WATER AND NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="530" kind="question">
        <name>Ms THOMPSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Reynell</electorate>
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          <question date="2012-10-30">
            <name>ENVIRONMENT, WATER AND NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT</name>
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        <startTime time="2012-10-30T15:45:00" />
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          <by role="member" id="530">Ms THOMPSON (Reynell) (15:45): </by> My question is to the Minister for Sustainability, Environment and Conservation. Following the amalgamation of the Department for Water and the Department of Environment and Natural Resources, can you advise of some of the key services which will be delivered to South Australians through the department—</text>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000861">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000862">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="530">
        <name>Ms THOMPSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000863">
          <by role="member" id="530">Ms THOMPSON: </by> Would you like me to repeat—</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000864">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Yes, can you repeat the question?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="530">
        <name>Ms THOMPSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000865">
          <by role="member" id="530">Ms THOMPSON: </by> Minister, following the amalgamation of the Department for Water with the Department of Environment and Natural Resources, can you advise of some of the key services which will be delivered to South Australians through the new Department of Environment, Water and Natural Resources?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1802" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Colton</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Sustainability</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Water and the River Murray</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Aboriginal Affairs and Reconciliation</name>
          </portfolio>
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        <startTime time="2012-10-30T15:46:00" />
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000866">
          <timeStamp time="2012-10-30T15:46:00" />
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA (Colton—Minister for Sustainability, Environment and Conservation, Minister for Water and the River Murray, Minister for Aboriginal Affairs and Reconciliation) (15:46): </by> DEWNR administers a wide range of programs supporting the environment, conservation, natural resource management and water, including the River Murray. These programs are of critical importance to maintaining and improving the sustainability of our terrestrial and marine environments and they also play a critical role in supporting the sustainability of our primary industries.</text>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000867">Just to mention a few key areas of activity, DEWNR has developed comprehensive fire management plans for public land which provide the strategic direction for fire management activities necessary to mitigate the risk that bushfire poses to life, property and the environment. The government, through DEWNR, maintains the botanic gardens (one of our iconic conservation, cultural and tourism locations) in addition to managing more than 300 parks and reserves covering 20 million hectares that conserve a range of natural and cultural sites and provide important areas for tourism and recreational activities. In addition, DEWNR facilitates the coordination of each regional NRM board as they work to meet the needs of the local communities in terms of managing natural resources, including the protection of marine and coastal environments.</text>
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        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000868">I spoke just recently in this place about the opening of the new natural resource centres and the important roles they will play in our regional communities, and I thank those local members from the various regions who attended those openings. Of course, DEWNR plays a pivotal role in the planning, implementation and coordination of strategies to provide for the sustainable use of our water resources, including through prescription and licensing; and, very importantly, having worked to underpin the successful campaign to provide a more sustainable future for the health of the River Murray and the communities that depend on having a healthy river system in South Australia.</text>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000869">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="7">Ms Chapman interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="1802" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000870">
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA: </by> You'll still be able to fish, Vickie.</text>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000871">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="7">Ms Chapman interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="1802" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000872">
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA: </by> You are fishing for that leadership role, again, I know.</text>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000873">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="74">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1802" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000874">
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA: </by> One is sailing towards the finish line and the other—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000875">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL:</by>  I know they will be workshopping this all week, but can we get back to the substance of the question?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000876">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Thank you, yes. Back to the question, minister.</text>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000877">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000878">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1802">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000879">
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA: </by> One is sailing to the finishing line, Madam Speaker, and the other into the sunset. However, while some would view DEWNR as an environment agency, it clearly has a pivotal economic role as well, a role that is especially understood by regional South Australians who the opposition like to take as their own. Hence, I think it is important for the public to know about some of the implications of which I have advised in relation to proposals for the one in four staff cuts across the public sector as proposed by the Liberal Party. That was not denied by the member for MacKillop, I might add.</text>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000880">That would result in 100 fewer full-time equivalents in DEWNR's fire brigade, reducing our bushfire response capacity, with DEWNR staff being the largest brigade within the Country Fire Service. The one in four cut would reduce opening hours for the Adelaide, Mount Lofty and Wittunga botanic gardens, and a deterioration of the gardens that would have a significant impact—</text>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000881">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="12">The Hon. I.F. Evans interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1802">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000882">
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA: </by> Not at all. It would have the garden looking more like a park than it should.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="563">
        <name>The Hon. I.F. EVANS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000883">
          <by role="member" id="563">The Hon. I.F. EVANS: </by> Point of order, Madam Speaker: standing order 128.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. Conlon</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000884">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. Conlon: </by> What about your interjection?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000885">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! Minister, I would ask you to wind up your answer. You have only got a few seconds left, anyway.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1802">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000886">
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA: </by> Madam Speaker, I will wind up my answer. Again, this one in four staff cut that is being proposed by the opposition would have timelines in the service provision of the water licensing area blow out, with processing for well construction permits rising from five business days to 15 business days. And we would lose 100—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000887">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman: </by> That's not winding up.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000888">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000889">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN: </by> Point of order. Madam Speaker, I think the minister has well and truly exceeded his four minutes.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000890">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> No, he still has a few seconds.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Marshall</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000891">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall: </by> It felt longer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000892">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1802">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="3445" />
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000893">
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA: </by> What will be interesting is how long it takes for the deputy leader to become the leader; that's what is interesting.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000894">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Thank you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000895">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL: </by> Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000896">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Thank you. There is a point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000897">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL: </by> Can we get a point of order on this constant debate that is coming from the minister?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000898">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Yes. There is a series of interjections coming from the other side, but I would ask you now, minister, to wind up your answer. Have you finished?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1802">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201210305b249401c19141a9a0000899">
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA: </by> Thank you, Madam Speaker. It is one thing—and I think that the Minister for Health made this point earlier—to took look for sensible efficiency improvements over time but it is quite another to make savage cuts to the Public Service apparently based on ideology.</text>
      </talker>
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