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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Health System</name>
      <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000558">
        <heading>HEALTH SYSTEM</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="1813" kind="question">
        <name>Mrs REDMOND</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Heysen</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2012-10-30">
            <name>HEALTH SYSTEM</name>
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        <startTime time="2012-10-30T15:04:00" />
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000559">
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          <by role="member" id="1813">Mrs REDMOND (Heysen—Leader of the Opposition) (15:04): </by> Thank you, Madam Speaker—</text>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000560">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000561">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1813">
        <name>Mrs REDMOND</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000562">
          <by role="member" id="1813">Mrs REDMOND: </by> —my question is, again, to the Minister for Health and Ageing. If the 114 hospital beds that the government is closing were not necessary and removing them will not reduce health services, why are those beds there in the first place?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="535" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.D. HILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Kaurna</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Health and Ageing</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Mental Health and Substance Abuse</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the Arts</name>
          </portfolio>
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        <startTime time="2012-10-30T15:05:00" />
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000563">
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          <by role="member" id="535">The Hon. J.D. HILL (Kaurna—Minister for Health and Ageing, Minister for Mental Health and Substance Abuse, Minister for the Arts) (15:05): </by> Well, I understand why the Leader of the Opposition does not understand a lot about the health portfolio—she has only had it for about three days. But can I just let her know—</text>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000564">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="51">Mrs Redmond interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000565">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000566">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="51">Mrs Redmond interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000567">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! You have asked the minister a question; allow him to answer it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="535">
        <name>The Hon. J.D. HILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000568">
          <by role="member" id="535">The Hon. J.D. HILL: </by> You see, the trouble is, if I can be a little analytical, the kind of questions that the leader asks are always smart-alec questions designed to be clever, rather than designed to—</text>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000569">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000570">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="535">
        <name>The Hon. J.D. HILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000571">
          <by role="member" id="535">The Hon. J.D. HILL: </by> —elicit information.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1813">
        <name>Mrs REDMOND</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000572">
          <by role="member" id="1813">Mrs REDMOND: </by> Point of order: standing order 98. In what way is the minister's comment not debate?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000573">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Thank you.</text>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000574">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000575">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="535">
        <name>The Hon. J.D. HILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000576">
          <by role="member" id="535">The Hon. J.D. HILL: </by> The point is, Madam Speaker, I have pointed out to the house that, by changing the process by which we discharge patients, we can make incredible productivity improvements in the health system, and that is what we are attempting to do. I find it risible that opposition members would be asking questions about health cuts and the numbers of staff in our hospitals when their plan is to reduce by 25,000 to 35,000 the number of public servants in our state.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. A. Koutsantonis</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000577">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis:</by>  You said it yourself, Isobel.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="535">
        <name>The Hon. J.D. HILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000578">
          <by role="member" id="535">The Hon. J.D. HILL: </by> That's what they said. That's what honest Issy said.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. A. Koutsantonis</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000579">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis: </by> You said it yourself.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="3431" />
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000580">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Thank you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000581">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN: </by> Madam Speaker, No. 98, debate. It is not about our policy.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000582">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> I think the minister—</text>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000583">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="32">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000584">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000585">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN: </by> The question is not—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000586">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Thank you.</text>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000587">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000588">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! I think the minister has finished his answer, anyway.</text>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000589">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="32">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20121030f568602af008498180000590">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> The minister for mines, order! The member for Taylor.</text>
      </talker>
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