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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Public Sector Employees</name>
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        <heading>PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="546" kind="question">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">MacKillop</electorate>
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            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2012-09-18">
            <name>PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES</name>
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        <startTime time="2012-09-18T15:17:00" />
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          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS (MacKillop—Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (15:17):</by>  Supplementary question, Madam Speaker. If the Premier is now telling the house that we cannot believe what senior public servants tell the estimates committees and that we cannot believe—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918c752ca89448042bc80001158">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918c752ca89448042bc80001159">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS:</by>  —the government's own budget papers, what can we believe from this government?</text>
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        <name>The Hon. P.F. CONLON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918c752ca89448042bc80001160">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. CONLON:</by>  Point of order, Madam Speaker. It is absolutely plainly argument to start a question with, 'If he says this' and 'If he says that'.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="546" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Williams</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="546">Mr Williams:</by>  He just said it.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="526">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. CONLON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918c752ca89448042bc80001162">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. CONLON:</by>  To channel the member for Davenport—it might be a hypothetical if it starts with 'if', according to the member for Davenport. That was plainly argument and contrary to standing order 97.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918c752ca89448042bc80001163">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> It certainly was a very hypothetical question.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="3121">
        <name>Mr PENGILLY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="2972" />
        <text id="20120918c752ca89448042bc80001164">
          <by role="member" id="3121">Mr PENGILLY:</by>  Point of order, Madam Speaker. I find it offensive that the Minister for Transport is trying to instruct the Speaker on how to go about her job.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918c752ca89448042bc80001165">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Thank you, member for Finniss; I can stand up for myself. I consider that it was a very hypothetical question but, Premier, do you want to answer it?</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS:</by>  On a point of clarification, Madam Speaker—</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918c752ca89448042bc80001167">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> The Premier has agreed to answer the question, member for MacKillop. I gave him the option. You asked the question.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="1812" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Cheltenham</electorate>
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            <name>Premier</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for State Development</name>
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        <startTime time="2012-09-18T15:18:00" />
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          <timeStamp time="2012-09-18T15:18:00" />
          <by role="member" id="1812">The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL (Cheltenham—Premier, Minister for State Development) (15:18):</by>  I think that really a deficit exists here. If those opposite cannot read and understand budget papers, if they cannot elicit evidence from a public servant and understand the purport of that evidence, we cannot help them. I think the truth is that we need those opposite to be fit for opposition before they can offer themselves to be an alternative government.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918c752ca89448042bc80001169">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS:</by>  A further supplementary, Madam Speaker.</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918c752ca89448042bc80001170">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> I considered that last one a question, but you can have another question.</text>
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