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  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2012-09-18" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Second Parliament, Second Session (52-2)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>52</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>2</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
  <house>House of Assembly</house>
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  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Public Sector Employees</name>
      <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001126">
        <heading>PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="563" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. I.F. EVANS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Davenport</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2012-09-18">
            <name>PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2012-09-18T15:14:00" />
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001127">
          <timeStamp time="2012-09-18T15:14:00" />
          <by role="member" id="563">The Hon. I.F. EVANS (Davenport) (15:14):</by>  My question is to the minister for public employment. Given the minister's previous answer that they spent—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. A. Koutsantonis</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001128">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis:</by>  Public sector.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="563" kind="question" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. I.F. EVANS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001129">
          <by role="member" id="563">The Hon. I.F. EVANS:</by>  Public sector—I apologise. I will ask it again: my question is to the Minister for the Public Sector. Given his previous answer that he spent the whole week looking for Public Service numbers and figures for previous governments, can he explain how he missed Labor's own budget in 2002-03 that says that the total full-time equivalent employees at that point was 66,933?</text>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001130">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001131">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001132">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001133">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Order! The member for Davenport will leave the chamber, and the member for Kavel will also. If we keep going at this rate, there will be no-one left.</text>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001134">
          <event>The honourable members for Davenport and Kavel having withdrawn from the chamber:</event>
        </text>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001135">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001136">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Order! The Minister for Transport and the Attorney-General will also be quiet or they will go also. Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1812" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Cheltenham</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for State Development</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2012-09-18T15:15:00" />
        <page num="2971" />
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001137">
          <timeStamp time="2012-09-18T15:15:00" />
          <by role="member" id="1812">The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL (Cheltenham—Premier, Minister for State Development) (15:15):</by>  I think an important piece of material to place on the record—I do not know whether it is on the <term>Hansard </term>record—is that it needs to be made very clear that when the minister was beginning his answer to that question, the Leader of the Opposition said, 'That's what I was told.'</text>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001138">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="51">Mrs Redmond interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1812" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001139">
          <by role="member" id="1812">The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL:</by>  Yes, now the gloss. Madam Speaker, it is absolutely clear that what was being spoken about was the number of employees in the South Australian public sector. The number that is being—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1807" kind="interjection">
        <name>Dr McFetridge</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001140">
          <by role="member" id="1807">Dr McFetridge:</by>  66,933.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001141">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1812">
        <name>The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001142">
          <by role="member" id="1812">The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL:</by>  Those opposite know that they are searching around, casting around wherever they possibly can, looking for a number that might match—</text>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001143">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001144">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. CONLON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001145">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. CONLON:</by>  Point of order: the member for Morphett should not wave things around; it is out of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001146">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> I did not see it.</text>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001147">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="65">Mr Williams interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001148">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Order! Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1812">
        <name>The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001149">
          <by role="member" id="1812">The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL:</by>  On any metric, there has never been 65,000 people in the state public sector since before we can almost find. It does not matter whether you use full-time equivalents, it does not matter whether you use the absolute numbers, you have to go back—</text>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001150">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001151">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1812">
        <name>The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001152">
          <by role="member" id="1812">The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL:</by>  —a very long way. I think what this demonstrates is the sloppiness of the preparation, the underpinning work, the laziness of those opposite, their inexperience for office—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001153">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS:</by>  Point of order: this is clearly debate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120918e02db3a4a77a424480001154">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Yes, Premier, I would ask you to finish your answer.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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