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  <sessionName>Fifty-Second Parliament, Second Session (52-2)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Public Sector Employees</name>
      <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000692">
        <heading>PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="543" kind="question">
        <name>Ms BEDFORD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Florey</electorate>
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          <question date="2012-09-18">
            <name>PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES</name>
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        <startTime time="2012-09-18T14:16:00" />
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          <by role="member" id="543">Ms BEDFORD (Florey) (14:16):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Can the Premier inform the house about the level of attrition in the public sector?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1812" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Cheltenham</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for State Development</name>
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          <question date="2012-09-18">
            <name>PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYEES</name>
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          <by role="member" id="1812">The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL (Cheltenham—Premier, Minister for State Development) (14:16):</by>  This has become a subject of some importance in the public debate because of the discussion kicked off by the Leader of the Opposition last week. The Leader of the Opposition maintained that, because there are 12,000 retirements each year from the public sector, significant reductions could be achieved through attrition.</text>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000695">Of course, the people of Queensland will be familiar with this pre-election refrain of reducing numbers through attrition, but I do wish to inform the house that this 12,000 retirement figure is, in fact, a fiction. Remember, this was offered as the explanation when the Leader of the Opposition ran into some choppy waters last week. It is possible that there are 12,000 people leaving particular positions in the public sector each year, but a large number of these are moving from one position to another.</text>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000696">I am advised that the attrition rate from the public sector is only 7 per cent, which means that 7,000 employees or 6,000 full-time equivalents leave the public sector each year; that is, about half the number of people leave the public sector as the opposition has relied upon in developing their policy position. This error, I think, just highlights their continued evidence of a lack of preparation for office.</text>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000697">Moreover, when you look at the composition of that attrition, we see the absurdity of relying upon attrition in a workforce as diverse as the public sector as the basis for reductions. For instance, if we were not to replace any staff from attrition each year, we would lose 1,050 nurses, 500 doctors, 400 teachers—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1813" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mrs Redmond</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000698">
          <by role="member" id="1813">Mrs Redmond:</by>  I never suggested that.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000699">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1812">
        <name>The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000700">
          <by role="member" id="1812">The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL:</by>  —400 school service officers and 100 police officers. Remember this was the thing that was relied upon to get their reductions, it is alleged. Over the four-year term of a Redmond government, we would lose more than 4,000 nurses, 2,000 doctors—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000701">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS:</by>  Point of order, Madam Speaker!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000702">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Point of order.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000704">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000705">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS:</by>  This is hypothetical, Madam Speaker, and it is totally wrong.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000706">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> I am not sure what your point of order is but, Premier, I refer you back to the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1812">
        <name>The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000707">
          <by role="member" id="1812">The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL:</by>  Thank you, Madam Speaker. Over the four-year term of a Liberal government, we would lose more than 4,000 nurses, almost 2,000 doctors, almost 400 police officers—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000709">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1812">
        <name>The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="2953" />
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          <by role="member" id="1812">The Hon. J.W. WEATHERILL:</by>  —over 1,500 teachers and more than 1,500 school service officers. I am certain that the electorate would like to understand which hospitals, which schools and which police stations the opposition believes should take these losses. In the policy and administrative areas, it is perhaps a little unlikely that there would be a nice even spread of retirements matching the areas of lower priority that presumably any sensible policy would identify. It is more likely that you would have a Swiss cheese effect.</text>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000711">I think what we are seeing here is evidence of the simple truth, that the Liberal Party in South Australia lacks the experience and competence to be an effective opposition, let alone an alternative government.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000713">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000714">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="74">Mr Marshall interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2012091862414c47fd1b459e90000715">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Member for Norwood, order! The Leader of the Opposition.</text>
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