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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Health and Community Services Complaints Commissioner</name>
      <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000674">
        <heading>HEALTH AND COMMUNITY SERVICES COMPLAINTS COMMISSIONER</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="631" kind="question">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Waite</electorate>
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          <question date="2012-03-14">
            <name>HEALTH AND COMMUNITY SERVICES COMPLAINTS COMMISSIONER</name>
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          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH (Waite) (15:07):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Health and Ageing. Why is he axing the Health and Community Services Complaints Commissioner, Ms Leena Sudano, and at what point did he lose confidence in Ms Sudano? With your leave—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. CONLON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000676">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. CONLON:</by>  I have a point of order. 'Axing', 'losing confidence'; it is all comment. It is absolutely disorderly.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000677">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Yes; the member for Waite has been here long enough to know how to ask a question. I ask him to look at the language of his question and be very careful in what he is saying.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000678">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  I will explain the question, Madam Speaker. The office ensures openness and accountability by dealing with complaints from the public about health and community services, including disability and child protection complaints, public, private and non-government. Ms Sudano, on 1 March, in public evidence told parliament's Economic and Finance Committee that 'the organisation is...to face cuts of between 21 and 29 per cent of its budget'. Ms Sudano raised concerns that some of the minister's decisions were based on what she called 'an unsupportable premise'. She said of the Minister for Health, 'It was clear to me that I was unlikely to enjoy the support of the minister.' Ms Sudano added that she was very concerned about what she described as 'continuing instability—'</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000679">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Member for Waite, this is going on quite considerably. This is not an opportunity to debate—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000680">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  I am quoting directly from the evidence—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000681">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> —it is more of a grievance. I ask you to get to the point of the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000682">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  I am getting to the point. Because of a lack of support and resources the agency did not—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. CONLON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000683">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. CONLON:</by>  Point of order. I have been very tolerant, but he has not actually even sought leave of the house to explain the question, nor has it been granted.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000685">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. CONLON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. CONLON:</by>  I make a further point of order, Madam Speaker. The explanation bears no resemblance to the question; it is more like a speech.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000687">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! Member for Waite, would you just ask your question please?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000688">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  I have asked the question, Madam Speaker. Should I repeat it?</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000689">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Yes; can you repeat it? I didn't properly hear what you said anyway.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  Why is the minister axing—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. CONLON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000691">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. CONLON:</by>  Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000692">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  Would you like me to say why is the minister closing—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000693">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> It is a point of order; you are talking about the word 'axing' again. I ask you to remove that word.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000694">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  Why is the minister closing the Health and Community Services Complaints Commissioner, Ms Leena Sudano, and at what point did he lose confidence in Ms Sudano? If I can complete my explanation—</text>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000695">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000696">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. CONLON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000697">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. CONLON:</by>  Point of order, Madam Speaker.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000698">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Another point of order. Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. CONLON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000699">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. CONLON:</by>  For the benefit of the member for Waite, to state that the minister has lost confidence in Leena Sudano is—</text>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000700">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. CONLON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000701">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. CONLON:</by>  When you're done.</text>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000702">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000703">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. CONLON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000704">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. CONLON:</by>  To state that the minister has lost confidence is pure comment and is disorderly. He has made no attempt to make his question orderly.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000705">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  Madam Speaker, I will rephrase the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000706">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Member for Waite, I would ask you to sit down and look at your question and you can ask it later.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000707">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  I am ready to go, Madam Speaker. Has the minister lost confidence—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20120314ac51d377a43c4ff690000708">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> No, you will sit down for now. Member for Morialta.</text>
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