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  <date date="2011-11-10" />
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Hospitals, Remembrance Day</name>
      <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000785">
        <heading>HOSPITALS, REMEMBRANCE DAY</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="3117" kind="question">
        <name>Mr BIGNELL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Mawson</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2011-11-10">
            <name>HOSPITALS, REMEMBRANCE DAY</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2011-11-10T15:06:00" />
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000786">
          <timeStamp time="2011-11-10T15:06:00" />
          <by role="member" id="3117">Mr BIGNELL (Mawson) (15:06): </by> My question is to the Minister for Veterans' Affairs. Can the minister explain the full contents of the email earlier referred to by the member for Morphett?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Playford</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Workers Rehabilitation</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Defence Industries</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Veterans' Affairs</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2011-11-10">
            <name>HOSPITALS, REMEMBRANCE DAY</name>
          </question>
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        <startTime time="2011-11-10T15:07:00" />
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000787">
          <timeStamp time="2011-11-10T15:07:00" />
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING (Playford—Treasurer, Minister for Workers Rehabilitation, Minister for Defence Industries, Minister for Veterans' Affairs) (15:07): </by> Thank you, Madam Speaker, and I can. I have been provided with the full text of the email which the member for Morphett rather selectively quoted from, in a disgusting attempt to politicise something as important as—</text>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000788">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000789">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000790">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING: </by>—Remembrance Day—</text>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000791">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000792">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000793">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING: </by>—and to try—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000794">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS: </by>  Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000795">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000796">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS: </by> Point of order, Madam Speaker. I know that the Treasurer has had a bad day, but he is clearly debating this answer, and he is totally out of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000797">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> I think that, about 10 seconds into the answer, you cannot say that he is debating at this stage. Treasurer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000798">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING: </by> A cheap and nasty attempt—</text>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000799">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000800">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000801">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS: </by> Point of order, Madam Speaker.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000802">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! Sit down, Treasurer. Point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000803">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS: </by> When the Treasurer uses emotive language and says things like 'disgusting'—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000804">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Thank you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000805">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS: </by> —he is debating.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="5963" />
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000806">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Thank you. Sit down. I think that you are the pot calling the kettle black there, deputy leader. However, Treasurer, can you please get to the substance of the question and, perhaps, keep the language out it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000807">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING: </by> I can, ma'am. I will read the full text of the email, which, I think, on any fair reading would not be interpreted as an instruction for Remembrance Day not to be observed in our public hospitals. It reads:—</text>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000808">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000809">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000810">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING: </by> I continue:</text>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000811">
          <inserted>We have had a request from—</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000812">I will not mention the name—</text>
        <text continued="true" id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000813">
          <inserted>on switchboard in relation to observing Remembrance Day. I've been in discussion with the Communications Division at the Department of Health last week and raised it for discussion at this morning's Regional Communications Teleconference. It's been agreed that (with the exception of The Repat) observance of Remembrance Day should not be broadcast over the hospital public—</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000814">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000815">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000816">
          <inserted>
            <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING: </by>—address system. This decision has been taken because the PA system has the potential to be very intrusive on patients and families, particularly as they don't have an option to opt out of the broadcast. Last time the observance—</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000817">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000818">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000819">
          <inserted>
            <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING: </by>—was broadcast—</inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000820">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. CONLON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000821">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. CONLON: </by>  I am standing right next to the Treasurer and, because the member for Morphett can't control himself, I cannot hear him properly.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000822">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Thank you. I uphold that point of order.</text>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000823">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000824">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! Can we listen to the email, please.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000825">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING: </by> I continue:</text>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000826">
          <inserted>Last time the observance was broadcast we also received correspondence from a veteran who strongly complained about incorrect protocol being followed in relation to the material used. For these reasons, observance is not to be broadcast over the hospital public address system on 11 November. Observance—</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000827">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000828">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000829">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="39">Dr McFetridge interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000830">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order, member for Morphett!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000831">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING: </by> Settle down mate, settle down. Your name will be mud among the veterans when they hear about this, mate. Your name will be mud.</text>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000832">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000833">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Order! I want to hear this email. Treasurer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000834">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  The email continues:</text>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000835">
          <inserted>Observance by staff is however encouraged, and an alert will be sent out to all staff via email. The use of a pop-up reminder by ICT on computer desktops is also being explored. Please communicate this decision to [the person concerned] and the Switchboard team.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000836">A blatant attempt by the member for Morphett, who has history on these sorts of things—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="5964" />
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000837">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS:</by>  Point of order, Madam Speaker: the Treasurer is again straying into debate because he has been caught out. I suggest the Treasurer go back and read the <term>Hansard</term> and he will see he was totally wrong.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20111110ebcaa5b1c8cc438690000838">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Thank you. We don't need an explanation from you. Question time has finished.</text>
      </talker>
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