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  <date date="2011-09-28" />
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Government Liability</name>
      <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000540">
        <heading>GOVERNMENT LIABILITY</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="563" kind="question">
        <name>The Hon. I.F. EVANS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Davenport</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2011-09-28">
            <name>GOVERNMENT LIABILITY</name>
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        <startTime time="2011-09-28T15:02:00" />
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000541">
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          <by role="member" id="563">The Hon. I.F. EVANS (Davenport) (15:02): </by> My question is again to the Treasurer. Is the Treasurer concerned that the government liabilities will exceed $20 billion in 2014, even after receiving the revenue from the sale of the forests and the Lotteries Commission?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Playford</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Employment, Training and Further Education</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Workers Rehabilitation</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2011-09-28">
            <name>GOVERNMENT LIABILITY</name>
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        <startTime time="2011-09-28T15:03:00" />
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000542">
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          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING (Playford—Treasurer, Minister for Employment, Training and Further Education, Minister for Workers Rehabilitation) (15:03): </by> I presume that the member for Davenport is also including the superannuation unfunded liability and the WorkCover unfunded liability as well as the debt.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000544">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Order!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  I think he is drawing a long bow. The fact is that the government is committed to paying down the unfunded superannuation liability. We pay a certain amount every year, and we are on track to have that unfunded superannuation liability (which has existed for many, many years) fully funded by 2034. We also undertook significant reforms in 2008 to the WorkCover scheme to address the unfunded liability faced by WorkCover.</text>
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000546">The other issue is with regard to debt, and the government has undertaken significant borrowings to expand the productive capacity, the economic capacity and the social infrastructure of this state. For that, I make absolutely no apologies. The fact is that the borrowings which we have undertaken are responsible borrowings. We are not borrowing to fund the day-to-day expenditure of government: we are borrowing—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="563" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. I.F. Evans</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000547">
          <by role="member" id="563">The Hon. I.F. Evans:</by>  $736 million over the last four years.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000548">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  That includes depreciation. It includes depreciation.</text>
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000549">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000550">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  It is not a cash deficit.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000553">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000554">
          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  The simple fact is—</text>
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000555">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000556">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000557">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="12">The Hon. I.F. Evans interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000558">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The member for Davenport, you are warned.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="5171" />
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          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  Like a screaming banshee. The simple fact is that the government has undertaken borrowings to build critical infrastructure: the redevelopment, the electrification of the state's metropolitan rail network, the duplication of the Southern Expressway, the South Road Superway—any number of projects which the government has undertaken borrowings to finance. We are incredibly proud. We have seen $9.1 billion in capital expenditure between now—</text>
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000560">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000561">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Hon. J.J. SNELLING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="627">The Hon. J.J. SNELLING:</by>  —over the course of the forward estimates. I make no apology for that. It is a reasonable amount of borrowing for a state government in our situation. We believe it is financially sustainable. We are committed to making sure we retain the AAA credit rating, in very difficult global economic circumstances.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011092838de2ab510354592a0000563">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Supplementary, member for Davenport.</text>
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