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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Small Business Commissioner</name>
      <page num="5012" />
      <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000471">
        <heading>SMALL BUSINESS COMMISSIONER</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="3115" kind="question">
        <name>Ms FOX</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Bright</electorate>
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          <question date="2011-09-15">
            <name>SMALL BUSINESS COMMISSIONER</name>
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        <startTime time="2011-09-15T14:19:00" />
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000472">
          <timeStamp time="2011-09-15T14:19:00" />
          <by role="member" id="3115">Ms FOX (Bright) (14:19):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Small Business. Can the minister inform the house about industry support for the government's small business commissioner?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Mineral Resources Development</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industry and Trade</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Small Business</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Correctional Services</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2011-09-15">
            <name>SMALL BUSINESS COMMISSIONER</name>
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        <startTime time="2011-09-15T14:19:00" />
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000473">
          <timeStamp time="2011-09-15T14:19:00" />
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens—Minister for Mineral Resources Development, Minister for Industry and Trade, Minister for Small Business, Minister for Correctional Services) (14:19):</by>  Madam Speaker, I can.</text>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000474">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1">The Hon. M.J. Atkinson interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000475">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order, member for Croydon!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000476">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The government is finding support in strange places for its legislation. I put out a press release yesterday, and in my reply yesterday I said that the Liberal Party was lost. I think the verdict is coming in. The Motor Trade Association of South Australia—not necessarily a hotbed of socialism and socialist activity—put out a press release dated 15 September 2011, and I thought I would inform the house on the views of one Mr John Chapman. People might remember John Chapman as being the former chief of staff to a former premier, one John Wayne Olsen. The headline is:</text>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000477">
          <inserted>Liberals lose their way on small business</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000478">
          <inserted>The state's peak retail automotive group, the Motor Trade Association, has called on the State Opposition to reverse a decision not to support vital Government legislation for small business.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000479">
          <inserted>MTA Executive Director John Chapman said he was disappointed that the party which prides itself on supporting business, had abandoned them in the debate on the Small Business Commissioner Bill.</inserted>
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        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000480">
          <inserted>'We are at a loss as to why the Opposition has decided not to support a piece of legislation which is designed very much to help their own natural constituency,' Mr Chapman said.</inserted>
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        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000481">
          <inserted>The MTA represents many members who have had franchise arrangements such as new vehicle dealers, service stations and automotive repairers.</inserted>
        </text>
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          <inserted>Mr Chapman said he suspected that the Opposition had been seduced by the arguments of the franchising sector which represented big business operators.</inserted>
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        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000483">
          <inserted>'Small business franchisees are regularly treated unfairly and unconscionably by franchisors who threaten to take their livelihoods away,' Mr Chapman said.</inserted>
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        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000484">
          <inserted>'When you have investments running to hundreds of thousands of dollars and sometimes millions at the whim of a franchisor not negotiating in good faith and simply removing the franchise without explanation—this needs to be looked at,' Mr Chapman said.</inserted>
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        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000485">
          <inserted>'What we have been campaigning for for many years is a legislative mechanism that forces big business to negotiate in good and fair faith with our small business members.'</inserted>
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        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000486">
          <inserted>'The Government's Bill provides that important opportunity with the appointment of a small business commissioner with the power to enforce compliance to Codes of Conduct,' Mr Chapman said.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000487">He goes on to say:</text>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000488">
          <inserted>'This is about rebalancing the power between small and big business and I call on the Liberal Opposition to support small business and review their decision before the bill is debated in the Upper House of State Parliament.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000489">The opposition stands alone in their opposition to this bill. Alone. They have one ally—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000491">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!  Point of order.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000492">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Point of order: clearly the minister is debating it. Poorly, I agree, but he's debating it and he should be sat down.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000493">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Thank you. Minister, have you finished answering your question? I ask you to return to the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000494">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I will just say this: the MTA, headed up by John Chapman, have not been long supporters of this government but they know a good bill when they see one. The opposition has been seduced by dark forces.</text>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000495">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000496">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! Just a moment, member for Finniss. Could members on my left please keep their voices down. It is very hard to even hear a point of order when one of your own members is bringing one up.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3121">
        <name>Mr PENGILLY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000497">
          <by role="member" id="3121">Mr PENGILLY:</by>  Point of order: the minister is clearly continuing to debate the matter.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000498">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The debate is over ma'am. They have lost.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110915e7c4d4f3de374d3890000499">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Minister, have you finished your response to the question?</text>
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