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  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2011-09-15" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Second Parliament, First Session (52-1)</sessionName>
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  <sessionNum>1</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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  <proceeding>
    <name>Parliamentary Procedure</name>
    <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000332">
      <heading>Parliamentary Procedure</heading>
    </text>
    <subject>
      <name>Sittings and Business</name>
      <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000333">
        <heading>SITTINGS AND BUSINESS</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="3120" kind="speech">
        <name>Mr PEDERICK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hammond</electorate>
        <startTime time="2011-09-15T12:40:00" />
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000334">
          <timeStamp time="2011-09-15T12:40:00" />
          <by role="member" id="3120">Mr PEDERICK (Hammond) (12:40):</by>  Madam Deputy Speaker, I move:</text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000335">
          <inserted>That Notice of Motion No. 7 be taken into consideration before Notices of Motion Nos 3 to 6.</inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3115">
        <name>The Deputy Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000336">
          <by role="member" id="3115">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</by>  Is that seconded?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338">
        <name>Mr MARSHALL</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000337">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr MARSHALL:</by>  I second that motion.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3115">
        <name>The Deputy Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000338">
          <by role="member" id="3115">The DEPUTY SPEAKER:</by>  I put the question: those in favour say aye; against, no. I believe the noes have it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3120">
        <name>Mr PEDERICK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000339">
          <by role="member" id="3120">Mr PEDERICK:</by>  Divide!</text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000340">The house divided on the motion:</text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000341">
          <table>
            <rowtitle>
              <cell colspan="3">AYES (17)</cell>
            </rowtitle>
            <row>
              <cell>Chapman, V.A.</cell>
              <cell>Evans, I.F.</cell>
              <cell>Gardner, J.A.W.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Goldsworthy, M.R.</cell>
              <cell>Griffiths, S.P.</cell>
              <cell>Marshall, S.S. (teller)</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>McFetridge, D.</cell>
              <cell>Pederick, A.S.</cell>
              <cell>Pengilly, M.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Pisoni, D.G.</cell>
              <cell>Sanderson, R.</cell>
              <cell>Such, R.B.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Treloar, P.A.</cell>
              <cell>van Holst Pellekaan, D.C.</cell>
              <cell>Venning, I.H.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Whetstone, T.J.</cell>
              <cell>Williams, M.R.</cell>
              <cell />
            </row>
          </table>
        </text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000342">
          <table>
            <rowtitle>
              <cell colspan="3">NOES (22)</cell>
            </rowtitle>
            <row>
              <cell>Atkinson, M.J.</cell>
              <cell>Bedford, F.E.</cell>
              <cell>Bignell, L.W.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Caica, P. (teller)</cell>
              <cell>Foley, K.O.</cell>
              <cell>Fox, C.C.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Geraghty, R.K.</cell>
              <cell>Hill, J.D.</cell>
              <cell>Kenyon, T.R.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Key, S.W.</cell>
              <cell>Koutsantonis, A.</cell>
              <cell>O'Brien, M.F.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Odenwalder, L.K.</cell>
              <cell>Pegler, D.W.</cell>
              <cell>Piccolo, T.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Portolesi, G.</cell>
              <cell>Rankine, J.M.</cell>
              <cell>Rau, J.R.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Thompson, M.G.</cell>
              <cell>Vlahos, L.A.</cell>
              <cell>Weatherill, J.W.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Wright, M.J.</cell>
              <cell />
              <cell />
            </row>
          </table>
        </text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000343">
          <table>
            <rowtitle>
              <cell colspan="2">PAIRS (4)</cell>
            </rowtitle>
            <row>
              <cell>Redmond, I.M.</cell>
              <cell>Snelling, J.J.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Hamilton-Smith, M.L.J.</cell>
              <cell>Sibbons, A.L.</cell>
            </row>
          </table>
        </text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000344">Majority of 5 for the noes.</text>
        <page num="5006" />
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000345">Motion thus negatived.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="549" kind="speech">
        <name>Mr VENNING</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Schubert</electorate>
        <startTime time="2011-09-15T12:48:00" />
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000346">
          <timeStamp time="2011-09-15T12:48:00" />
          <by role="member" id="549">Mr VENNING (Schubert) (12:48):</by>  I move:</text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000347">
          <inserted>That consideration of Notice of Motion No.6 be postponed until Thursday 29 September 2011.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000348">The house divided on the motion:</text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000349">
          <table>
            <rowtitle>
              <cell colspan="3">AYES (18)</cell>
            </rowtitle>
            <row>
              <cell>Chapman, V.A.</cell>
              <cell>Evans, I.F.</cell>
              <cell>Gardner, J.A.W.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Goldsworthy, M.R.</cell>
              <cell>Griffiths, S.P.</cell>
              <cell>Marshall, S.S. (teller)</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>McFetridge, D.</cell>
              <cell>Pederick, A.S.</cell>
              <cell>Pegler, D.W.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Pengilly, M.</cell>
              <cell>Pisoni, D.G.</cell>
              <cell>Sanderson, R.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Such, R.B.</cell>
              <cell>Treloar, P.A.</cell>
              <cell>van Holst Pellekaan, D.C.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Venning, I.H.</cell>
              <cell>Whetstone, T.J.</cell>
              <cell>Williams, M.R.</cell>
            </row>
          </table>
        </text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000350">
          <table>
            <rowtitle>
              <cell colspan="3">NOES (21)</cell>
            </rowtitle>
            <row>
              <cell>Atkinson, M.J.</cell>
              <cell>Bedford, F.E.</cell>
              <cell>Bignell, L.W.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Caica, P. (teller)</cell>
              <cell>Foley, K.O.</cell>
              <cell>Fox, C.C.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Geraghty, R.K.</cell>
              <cell>Hill, J.D.</cell>
              <cell>Kenyon, T.R.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Key, S.W.</cell>
              <cell>Koutsantonis, A.</cell>
              <cell>O'Brien, M.F.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Odenwalder, L.K.</cell>
              <cell>Piccolo, T.</cell>
              <cell>Portolesi, G.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Rankine, J.M.</cell>
              <cell>Rau, J.R.</cell>
              <cell>Thompson, M.G.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Vlahos, L.A.</cell>
              <cell>Weatherill, J.W.</cell>
              <cell>Wright, M.J.</cell>
            </row>
          </table>
        </text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000351">
          <table>
            <rowtitle>
              <cell colspan="2">PAIRS (4)</cell>
            </rowtitle>
            <row>
              <cell>Redmond, I.M.</cell>
              <cell>Snelling, J.J.</cell>
            </row>
            <row>
              <cell>Hamilton-Smith, M.L.J.</cell>
              <cell>Sibbons, A.L.</cell>
            </row>
          </table>
        </text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000352">Majority of 3 for the noes.</text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000353">Motion thus negatived.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3120" kind="speech">
        <name>Mr PEDERICK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hammond</electorate>
        <startTime time="2011-09-15T12:57:00" />
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000354">
          <timeStamp time="2011-09-15T12:57:00" />
          <by role="member" id="3120">Mr PEDERICK (Hammond) (12:57):</by>  I move:</text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000355">
          <inserted>That consideration of Notice of Motion No. 6 be postponed.</inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000356">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Is that seconded?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619" kind="interjection">
        <name>An honourable member</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000357">
          <by role="member" id="619">An honourable member:</by>  Yes, ma'am.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000358">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> For the question say aye; against, no—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000359">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Point of order, Madam Speaker—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000360">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> The ayes have it. Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000361">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The member for Schubert has been a member of this house for nearly 20 years. We just had a division dealing with his motion—</text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000362">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000363">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I refer you, ma'am, to Erskine May. The member for Schubert has been a member of this house for a very—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619" kind="interjection">
        <name>An honourable member</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000364">
          <by role="member" id="619">An honourable member:</by>  What's the point of order?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000365">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  I just said; I refer to Erskine May.</text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000366">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000367">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Madam Speaker, may I continue?</text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000368">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="5007" />
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000369">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000370">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="65">Mr Williams interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000371">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  No, I'm not.</text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000372">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000373">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000374">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The member for Schubert, Madam Speaker, has been a member of this house for over 20 years. He just participated in a division and then left the chamber, knowing full well that his motion was before the house.</text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000375">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000376">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Order! The member for Schubert cannot be made to move his motion; it is not possible to do that. It has now been postponed. In the past the whips have been able to sort this out before this shemozzle happening. It is lunchtime; I think we will go to lunch.</text>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000377">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2011091588cd4b4c9f6940d390000378">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> We have got one minute. Member for Norwood.</text>
      </talker>
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