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  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2011-06-23" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Second Parliament, First Session (52-1)</sessionName>
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  <sessionNum>1</sessionNum>
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  <proceeding continued="true">
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Child's Death</name>
      <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000760">
        <heading>CHILD'S DEATH</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="question">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Bragg</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2011-06-23">
            <name>CHILD'S DEATH</name>
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        <startTime time="2011-06-23T15:21:00" />
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000761">
          <timeStamp time="2011-06-23T15:21:00" />
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN (Bragg) (15:21):</by>  My question again is to the Minister for Families and Communities. Was the legal advice from the—</text>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000762">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000763">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000764">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Was the legal advice from the minister's 'in-house counsel' given—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. A. Koutsantonis</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000765">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis:</by>  Crown law.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000766">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  In her department.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. A. Koutsantonis</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000767">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis:</by>  Crown law.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000768">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  In her department.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. A. Koutsantonis</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000769">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. Koutsantonis:</by>  Crown Solicitor's Office.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000770">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Read the <term>Hansard</term> from yesterday, Tom.</text>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000771">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000772">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000773">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Was the legal advice from the minister's 'in-house counsel' given verbally or in writing, in respect of the five-year-old boy who died in a housing trust property two weeks ago?</text>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000774">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="1">The Hon. M.J. Atkinson interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000775">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Maybe she can answer it. Is she able to answer it, do you think, Michael, or do you want to help?</text>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000776">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000777">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Do you want a conference first, or she'll answer the question?</text>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000778">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000779">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! Minister.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Wright</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Families and Communities</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Housing</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Ageing</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Disability</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2011-06-23T15:22:00" />
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000780">
          <timeStamp time="2011-06-23T15:22:00" />
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE (Wright—Minister for Families and Communities, Minister for Housing, Minister for Ageing, Minister for Disability) (15:22):</by>  The questions that the member for Bragg asked today are nothing short of offensive, extremely offensive.</text>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000781">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="7">Ms Chapman interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000782">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000783">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  She comes in here trying to make assertions that somehow this is about protecting me, and questioning my integrity, and my commitment to protecting children here in South Australia and I find her offensive. She does nothing but embarrass herself—</text>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000784">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000785">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000786">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  —in the house. She does nothing but throw innuendo and muck.</text>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000787">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000788">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000789">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="4411" />
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000790">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order, the Minister for Defence Industries!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000791">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order: I hear what the minister says. The question was whether this advice was verbal—</text>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000792">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000793">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000794">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  —or in writing, and if the minister is offended by a question asking whether the advice she has received is verbal or in writing, if she is offended by that in some way, I am happy to say that I'm sorry you're offended—</text>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000795">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000796">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000797">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  —but that was the question: was it verbal or was it in writing?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000798">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! There is no point of order. The minister has chosen to answer the question in the way she chooses.</text>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000799">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000800">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! What is your point of order, Minister for Transport?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. CONLON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000801">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. CONLON:</by>  I just need a point of clarification. I would assume that any advice, whether in writing or not, would have been verbal, otherwise it might be in pictures.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000802">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000803">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110623cf0ef8b127b6441cb0000804">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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