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  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2011-06-22" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-Second Parliament, First Session (52-1)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Child's Death</name>
      <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000700">
        <heading>CHILD'S DEATH</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="question">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Bragg</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2011-06-22">
            <name>CHILD'S DEATH</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2011-06-22T14:59:00" />
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000701">
          <timeStamp time="2011-06-22T14:59:00" />
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN (Bragg) (14:59):</by>  My question again is to the Minister for Families and Communities. Did the minister receive legal advice not to answer any questions about the conduct of her department in respect of the death of the five-year-old boy in a housing trust property from the Attorney-General, the Crown Solicitor's Office, the former attorney-general (whom she is speaking with now), the solicitor representing her in the defamation case, or another lawyer?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Wright</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Families and Communities</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Housing</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Ageing</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Disability</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2011-06-22">
            <name>CHILD'S DEATH</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2011-06-22T15:00:00" />
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000702">
          <timeStamp time="2011-06-22T15:00:00" />
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE (Wright—Minister for Families and Communities, Minister for Housing, Minister for Ageing, Minister for Disability) (15:00):</by>  I have been keen to be as open and transparent about this issue as I possibly can. I have not in any way tried to hide that the family concerned in this tragic event were tenants of the South Australian housing trust and that there had been some contact with Families SA. What I am advised is that—</text>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000703">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000704">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000705">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  What I am advised is that I need to be incredibly cautious about the public statements I make—</text>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000706">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000707">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000708">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  —about involvement with this family while the matter is before the court. That is the advice I have received.</text>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000709">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="4285" />
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000710">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000711">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  Regardless of the outcome of the trial and the review process that will be undertaken by the Coroner and the Child Death and Serious Injury Review Committee, this government continues to look for ways—</text>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000712">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000713">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000714">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  —to improve services for vulnerable families. Let me tell you some of the things we have done in relation to—</text>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000715">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000716">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000717">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  You don't want to hear that?</text>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000718">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000719">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order, stop shouting across the floor! Member for Bragg, behave. Member for Stuart, do you have a point of order?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4342">
        <name>Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000720">
          <by role="member" id="4342">Mr VAN HOLST PELLEKAAN:</by>  I rise on a point of order: 98. The minister is not addressing the substance of the question. The question was not about whether she got the advice, but where it came from.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000721">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by>  Sit down.</text>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000722">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000723">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order, member for Norwood, behave!</text>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000724">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000725">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! As I have said on a number of occasions, ministers can choose to answer a question how they wish. The minister has given a full explanation. Have you finished your answer, minister?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000726">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  I am happy to tell the opposition that we have a crown solicitor outposted in the Department for Families and Communities, and the advice that I have received is that I need to be very cautious about what I say publicly because it is likely—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000727">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman:</by>  Yesterday you wouldn't give an answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000728">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  You didn't ask that question yesterday.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000729">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000730">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman:</by>  Yes I did.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000731">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  No you didn't.</text>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000732">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="7">Ms Chapman interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000733">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order, member for Bragg!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000734">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  The empty vessel makes the most noise, doesn't it? A long time waiting—you are going to be sitting there waiting a long time.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000735">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000736">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000737">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000738">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  They don't like it when she's quiet. The only time she's been quiet of recent times is when she was asked to support her leader after the post-election period.</text>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000739">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000740">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="614">
        <name>The Hon. J.M. RANKINE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000741">
          <by role="member" id="614">The Hon. J.M. RANKINE:</by>  All this noise from the person who lost the election for them.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="4286" />
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000742">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The minister will get back to her answer. I think you have answered it very well.</text>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000743">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110622497dd7f138a94585b0000744">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order! Leader, supplementary.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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