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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Marine Parks</name>
      <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000470">
        <heading>MARINE PARKS</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="546" kind="question">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">MacKillop</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Leader of the Opposition</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2011-04-06">
            <name>MARINE PARKS</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2011-04-06T14:41:00" />
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000471">
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          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS (MacKillop—Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (14:41):</by>  My question is to the Minister for Environment and Conservation. Given that the government has now been working on marine parks for nine years, and has had four environment ministers, will they now release the scientific data supporting the establishment of no-take fishing zones?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1802" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Colton</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Environment and Conservation</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the River Murray</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Water</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2011-04-06">
            <name>MARINE PARKS</name>
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        <startTime time="2011-04-06T14:41:00" />
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          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA (Colton—Minister for Environment and Conservation, Minister for the River Murray, Minister for Water) (14:41):</by>  Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, and, of course, I thank the deputy leader for his question. Of course, the information that relates to the science on which the marine parks is based is readily available. I offered a presentation to members of parliament last week, or the week before, which a few of them attended, to actually look at the basis on which the science is being used for the development of—</text>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000473">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000474">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1802">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000475">
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA:</by>  —a representative marine parks system. Of course, the science we have used and are using is, in fact, world's best practice. Even yesterday, there was another presentation that was offered to members of parliament with Professor Hugh Possingham, who is a world-renowned expert on the design of marine parks and the principles—</text>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000476">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">An honourable member interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1802">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000477">
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA:</by>  He is. He is an outstanding South Australian, not living in South Australia at the moment, but outstanding. I noticed that, conspicuous by their absence, were many of the—I did notice that the member—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="4338" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Marshall</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000478">
          <by role="member" id="4338">Mr Marshall:</by>  You were conspicuous by your absence last night.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1802">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000479">
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA:</by>  Your students have left, have they, so you can act in this inappropriate way, or are they still there? Alright, that's okay. You set the example to the students about how to act; that's fine. The science is there, it is readily available, and I did have an understanding that this question was going to be raised. I guess if there was—</text>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000480">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000481">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3120" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Pederick</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000482">
          <by role="member" id="3120">Mr Pederick:</by>  PIRSA manage fish, not DENR.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000483">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Order, member for Hammond!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1802">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000484">
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA:</by>  I guess something that came out of last night's meeting were the comments made by the Leader of the Opposition that they support marine parks but, of course, do not in any way support sanctuary zones. So, what they will be saying is that they will  continue with just what exists at the moment.</text>
        <page num="3274" />
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000485">The science is readily available, and I will just reinforce this point for the opposition, even though I have said it before, I will say it now and I will say it again in the future, but they do not listen—the marine parks design principles are not a fisheries management tool. What they are—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3120" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Pederick</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000486">
          <by role="member" id="3120">Mr Pederick:</by>  It's all about fish according to you.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1802">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000487">
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA:</by>  Well, I did see the member for Hammond's press release some time ago—and someone must have written it for him because it was reasonably articulate—quite simply looking at, 'Why are we doing marine parks?'. I will paraphrase it here: why are we doing marine parks if it is not a fisheries management tool? I have said ad nauseam that it is not a fisheries management tool. It is one of the tools in the toolbox that is very valuable, the most important tool—</text>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000488">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000489">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1802">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000490">
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA:</by>  —in preserving and protecting the marine habitat in which a variety of species live, not the least of which, of course, is fish. It is about creating an environment where all species continue to thrive, because we are protecting the habitat in which they live and that, in turn, then benefits—</text>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000491">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000492">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1802">
        <name>The Hon. P. CAICA</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000493">
          <by role="member" id="1802">The Hon. P. CAICA:</by>  Madam Speaker, they have shown to date that they are not willing to listen. They want to politicise this process. I acknowledge that the member for Davenport promulgates information that says he is behind the establishment of 19 marine parks. I also acknowledge, given last night's meeting and the way it has been reported, that the Leader of the Opposition does not support sanctuary zones, and that is the difference between us and them.</text>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000494">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000495">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000496">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000497">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000498">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="7">Ms Chapman interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20110406f711c697686c4ba8b0000499">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! I warn the member for Bragg for the second time, I have had enough of this.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
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