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    <name>Question Time</name>
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      <name>Council of International Trade and Commerce South Australia</name>
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        <heading>COUNCIL OF INTERNATIONAL TRADE AND COMMERCE SOUTH AUSTRALIA</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="631" kind="question">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Waite</electorate>
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          <question date="2010-11-09">
            <name>COUNCIL OF INTERNATIONAL TRADE AND COMMERCE SOUTH AUSTRALIA</name>
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          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH (Waite) (14:58): </by> My question, again, is to the Premier. Did the Premier personally approve—</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="532" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. Foley</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. Foley: </by> Look at him, all fired up.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000653">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! Treasurer, you are on a second warning.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000655">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH: </by> Finished now?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000656">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000657">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH: </by> You finished?</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000659">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! Member for Waite, get on with your question or sit down.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH: </by> Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is to the Premier. Did the Premier personally approve the cutting of $200,000 worth of funding to the Council of International Trade and Commerce of South Australia (the organisation that supports 40 chambers of commerce, including the Italian Chamber of Commerce), and how, as Leader of the Government, does he justify that decision while maintaining funding of at least $1.2 million for his special relationship with Puglia?</text>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000661">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000662">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! Before you start, minister, who did you ask that question of?</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  The Premier.</text>
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        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000664">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> The Premier, so you are asking him to justify it?</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  Correct.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">West Torrens</electorate>
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            <name>Minister for Industry and Trade</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Small Business</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Correctional Services</name>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Gambling</name>
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          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS (West Torrens—Minister for Industry and Trade, Minister for Small Business, Minister for Correctional Services, Minister for Gambling) (15:00):</by>  Madam Speaker, I will justify it with the words of the Leader of the Opposition, and the words of the Leader of the Opposition are these: CITCSA generates $80 million worth of export trade out of South Australia per year. Apparently, with the $80 million they generate they cannot self-fund $200,000, which is less than 1 per cent of that $80 million. Perhaps the member for Waite should speak to his leader and find out what she said before he gets up and asks the question; perhaps he should also remember what he has said in the house—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000668">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000669">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  —because the member for Waite had some interesting things to say about our investment in Europe. This is what he said: on 28 September, speaking about the government's overseas offices, he told this house:</text>
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          <inserted>I will be interested to explore that during budget estimates, because many of them, particularly in China, India, the UK, Europe and the US, perform very valued roles…</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000671">Who was he talking about? Our special envoys. To where? To Europe. Of course, he did it to—</text>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000672">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000673">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000674">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">An honourable member interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000675">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  Is that right? The honourable member knew, when he made that speech, that the Agent-General's Office is in the United Kingdom and that we have no offices in Europe. The special envoy we were talking about was our envoy to Europe, Mr Sasanelli, who he has made remarks about outside this house, but in this house he says he provides a very valued role. So which one is it? Is it a very valued role or is it no good? Make up your mind! Talk about misleading people—you are the one! The fact is—</text>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000676">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000677">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS:</by>  Point of order, Madam Speaker.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000678">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! Point of order, member for MacKillop.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000679">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS:</by>  The minister is not answering the question that he was asked, and he is debating the subject.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000680">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> The minister is about to finish answering his question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="633">
        <name>The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000681">
          <by role="member" id="633">The Hon. A. KOUTSANTONIS:</by>  The fact is that in this house, during his speech he said one thing about our presence in Europe—that is, it was valued—but outside this house he gets stuck into it. Why? Because you cannot trust him, you cannot trust what he says.</text>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000682">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201011090839480cda3c422bb0000683">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
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