House of Assembly Fifty-Second Parliament, First Session (52-1) 52 1 Parliament of South Australia House of Assembly published Question Time Julia Farr Association JULIA FARR ASSOCIATION Ms CHAPMAN House of Assembly Bragg JULIA FARR ASSOCIATION Ms CHAPMAN (Bragg) (15:13): My question is to the Treasurer. Have you finished reading the paper? The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! Ms CHAPMAN House of Assembly Ms CHAPMAN: How does the Treasurer explain the difference between a chief executive officer who moved $5.9 million to the Crown Solicitor's Trust Account to avoid the Treasurer's carryover policy and the former minister for disability who paid $5.1 million to the Julia Farr Association to avoid the Treasurer's carryover policy? The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly Port Adelaide Deputy Premier Minister for Federal/State Relations Minister for Defence Industries The Hon. K.O. FOLEY (Port Adelaide—Deputy Premier, Treasurer, Minister for Federal/State Relations, Minister for Defence Industries) (15:14): There is no comparison between the two issues, and I will say why. The use of the Crown Solicitor's Trust Account by the former CEO Kate Lennon—who lost her case, incidentally, in the Supreme Court of South Australia where she was claiming unfair dismissal. I think the government witnesses, a number of ministers, were found by the judge to have been good, credible, believable witnesses, and I think there was some question mark over the quality of the presentation of those acting or giving evidence from the other side. The— Mrs Redmond House of Assembly Mrs Redmond: What's the difference? The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: I am going to explain that to you, and I have no intention of talking over the top of screaming people so, if you want the answer, let's keep it quiet, please. Members interjecting: The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: Well, it's as simple as that. I am just not going to be bothered with your nonsense over there today. The member for Norwood should get some anger management lessons. I have to tell you— Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! Treasurer, we will wait until there is order before you respond to this question. They are wasting their question time. The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: The member for Adelaide, I think, must end question time with an enormous migraine headache and somewhat stressed from the constant aggression. Mr Marshall House of Assembly Mr Marshall: Are you trying to avoid answering the question? The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! I warn the member for Norwood. The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: Do you know what we used to do to kids like that at school? We all had one of these sorts of guys at school, didn't we, guys? The Crown Solicitor's Trust Account was a device used by the former CEO of that department to squirrel away money that was not spent to hide it from government in the carryover process and to draw that money out and to spend it on pet projects that she had no authority or appropriation for. The former minister and attorney-general, and myself, for many years have carried the burden of abuse and criticism from members opposite about the Kate Lennon affair, and each and every witness from the government was found to be truthful and incredibly believable. But what occurred in the Lennon matter was a deliberate act of deceit and a deliberate move to have a slush fund from which that money could be spent on whatever the CEO of the day so proclaimed. In the case in question here, there is a number of— Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: How come you go quiet when she tells you to be quiet but not when I say it? Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! On with the question. The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: Breaking news, I have to say: the Leader of the Opposition is more terrified of the member for Bragg than she is of me! Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: Quiet! Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: If Isobel won't, I am not going to— The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: The member for Croydon.