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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Air Warfare Destroyer</name>
      <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000756">
        <heading>AIR WARFARE DESTROYER</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="631" kind="question">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Waite</electorate>
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          <question date="2010-10-14">
            <name>AIR WARFARE DESTROYER</name>
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        <startTime time="2010-10-14T15:25:00" />
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000757">
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          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH (Waite) (15:25): </by> My question is to the Premier. During the state election campaign, why did the Premier overstate the value to South Australia of the air warfare destroyer contract at $6.6 billion? During the state election campaign, the Premier released a personally signed policy statement (accompanied by his photograph) which claimed:</text>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000758">
          <inserted>In the past six years South Australia has secured, for now and the future, around $44 billion worth of defence projects. This includes the largest defence contract awarded in Australia's history, the $8 billion air warfare destroyer project.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000759">But the Treasurer said on 7 October that only $1.4 billion over 10 years from the air warfare destroyer project will, in fact, be spent in South Australia.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3124" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Pisoni</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000760">
          <by role="member" id="3124">Mr Pisoni: </by> I know the answer: because he's a fraud.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Ramsay</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Economic Development</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Social Inclusion</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the Arts</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Sustainability and Climate Change</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2010-10-14T15:26:00" />
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000761">
          <timeStamp time="2010-10-14T15:26:00" />
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN (Ramsay—Premier, Minister for Economic Development, Minister for Social Inclusion, Minister for the Arts, Minister for Sustainability and Climate Change) (15:26): </by> I seem to remember—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3124" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Pisoni</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000762">
          <by role="member" id="3124">Mr Pisoni: </by> The Premier is a fraud. That's why he said it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000763">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order, member for Unley! That is out of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000764">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> I have a point of order, Madam Speaker. The member for Unley, on more than one occasion, said the Premier is a fraud. That is most unparliamentary. I ask that he withdraw and apologise.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000765">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Yes, I uphold that point of order. Member for Unley, I ask that you withdraw that comment. What you said was very loud and very clear. I heard it very clearly.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3124">
        <name>Mr PISONI</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="1613" />
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000766">
          <by role="member" id="3124">Mr PISONI: </by> I did call the Premier a fraud, Madam Speaker, and I withdraw.</text>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000767">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="44">Mr Pengilly interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000768">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order, the member for Finniss. I warn the member for Finniss.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000769">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by> I was looking through the figures the other day and, since I have been the leader of the Labor Party, there have been six leaders of the Liberal Party and 10 deputy leaders: Oceans 16.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000770">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS: </by> I have a point of order. The question was about the vast discrepancy between claims made during the election campaign and the reality as explained by the Treasurer in the estimates committee.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000771">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> Yes, I do give them some leniency but it is getting close to the bone. I think you had better get back to the question, Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000772">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by> It really hits at the core of them. The thing is that, if you go back to what the Howard government said, you were all very keen to say that it really had nothing to do with the South Australian government. You thought it was all to do with Nick Minchin and John Howard. 'The fact that we were up against the other states had nothing to do with us. It was a fantastic project. It was a Liberal project,' you said, and you talked about the billions of dollars, of course—</text>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000773">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="5">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000774">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by> Now they are going to attack John Howard. I can't believe it. The guy lost his seat. Kick a man—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000775">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! There is a point of order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000776">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS: </by> Madam Speaker, it was not John Howard's photograph and signature on the ALP campaign material that misled the people of South Australia.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000777">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> That is a very longwinded point of order. I do not think there is one.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000778">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by> I am very pleased that, rather than buying air warfare destroyers off the shelf from overseas, we are actually building them here. It includes, of course—and only a blockhead would doubt this—radar and missile systems that are purchased from overseas. But the fact is that it is being done here and it is the biggest project in Australian history, one which, by the way, members opposite (just as they did with John Bannon on the submarine project) said we were not going to win. Ultimately, they rejoice when the unemployment figures go up. When they go down and we have record employment numbers, it is like a sea of depression on the second floor.</text>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000779">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="12">The Hon. I.F. Evans interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000780">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order, member for Davenport!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000781">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by> And what a difference. Since you were in the cabinet there are 120,000 more people in work, five times the infrastructure spend, and we have got—</text>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000782">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="12">The Hon. I.F. Evans interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000783">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000784">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by> I know why he is sensitive. What were his figures? Iain Frederick Evans, 2006-07 as leader, then before that he was deputy leader. Look at them—10 deputy leaders. I thought there was 12. I was wrong; I have misled people. I thought there was only 12; there are 16.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3121">
        <name>Mr PENGILLY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000785">
          <by role="member" id="3121">Mr PENGILLY: </by> Point of order, Madam Speaker: standing order 128.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000786">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! I uphold that point of order. Premier, have you finished your answer?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000787">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by> Yes, I have.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="619">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="201010145ab6db8025d04f3b90000788">
          <by role="member" id="619">The SPEAKER: </by> The member for Torrens.</text>
      </talker>
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