House of Assembly Fifty-First Parliament, Third Session (51-3) 51 3 Parliament of South Australia House of Assembly published Question Time Adelaide Oval ADELAIDE OVAL Mr GRIFFITHS House of Assembly Goyder Deputy Leader of the Opposition ADELAIDE OVAL Mr GRIFFITHS (Goyder—Deputy Leader of the Opposition) (14:44): My question is to the Treasurer. Is the $200 million from delaying the West Lakes tram extension and now directed into the Adelaide Oval upgrade proposal currently in the government's budget forward estimates and, if not, how can this money be saved and used to fund Adelaide Oval upgrades? The government infrastructure website states that the current program is to extend the light rail service to West Lakes by approximately 2015. According to the last two state budgets, there is no specifically identified funding allocation over the four years of the forward estimates for the West Lakes trams extension. The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly Port Adelaide Deputy Premier Minister for Industry and Trade Minister for Federal/State Relations ADELAIDE OVAL The Hon. K.O. FOLEY (Port Adelaide—Deputy Premier, Treasurer, Minister for Industry and Trade, Minister for Federal/State Relations) (14:45): Mr Speaker— Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: —can I say, fancy the opposition questioning me about where the money is coming from. I have not gone out there and said that I am going to sell a billion dollars of land that does not exist. Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: And I noted today that their idea of selling West Lakes land—Rod Payze, the Chairman of SANFL, made it very clear that they never ever will agree to sell their land; they want to long term lease it for development. So, all of a sudden— Mr WILLIAMS House of Assembly Mr WILLIAMS: Point of order. The question was very specific. It was about where this money is. Is it in the budget or is it not in the budget? The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The member for MacKillop will take his seat. Yes, the Treasurer needs to answer the substance of the question. The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: As I made it clear, and a lesson in budgeting now for the shadow, I really wish that you'd talk to Rob Lucas about this. Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The Hon. P.F. Conlon House of Assembly The Hon. P.F. Conlon: He wrote the question, apparently. The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: He wrote the question, did he? The Hon. P.F. Conlon House of Assembly The Hon. P.F. Conlon: Yes, he did. The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: Rob Lucas wrote the question for him! Not only is Rob Lucas doing all of the media, he is now writing the questions for him. Mr GRIFFITHS House of Assembly Mr GRIFFITHS: Point of order. I'm getting sick of this idiot rabble on about things that he doesn't even know about. The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! Mr GRIFFITHS House of Assembly Mr GRIFFITHS: Talk about the specifics. The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! Mr GRIFFITHS House of Assembly Mr GRIFFITHS: Is the 200 in the forward estimates or not? Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The house will come to order! The Treasurer. The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: Thank you, sir. That was quite— Dr McFetridge interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: The member for Morphett! Members interjecting: The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: Glass jaw. Like jack-in-the-box—whoa! A big red nose. Now, sir— Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: Don't you like the way he leans forward looking very intently at me? When you schedule the forward estimates Treasury actually has forward estimates that go beyond the published forward estimates. Mrs Redmond interjecting: The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: Yes, that's correct. She's learnt, and I am happy to have given something. Mrs Redmond interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: The Leader of the Opposition— Mr Griffiths interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: —and the Deputy Leader of the Opposition! Mr PENGILLY House of Assembly Mr PENGILLY: Point of order. Yet again, as yesterday and other days, the Treasurer referred to the Leader of the Opposition as 'she'. The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: It is not disorderly for someone to refer to another member by the third person pronoun. That is not disorderly; it is disorderly to refer to them by their name. The Deputy Premier. The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: I apologise if I have given any offence to the member. When Patrick Conlon, the Minister for Infrastructure, initially brought to government, he— The Hon. P.F. Conlon House of Assembly The Hon. P.F. Conlon: Refer to me as he, if you wish. The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: He. When the transport and infrastructure minister— Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! Mrs Redmond interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The Leader of the Opposition! The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: —brought forward to government the proposal for, I think, up to $2 billion for rail infrastructure, electrification, extensions, etc., it was one of those meetings where, I think—whoa! As you work through these things, what we have done with the rail electrification project, if we have a spreadsheet for that, when it first goes out, it is over a ten-year period. Okay? And you allocate— Mrs Redmond interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: The Leader of the Opposition has been warned once. The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: I'm answering the question. And each year the appropriate funding each of those quantums of money are put in each of those allocated years, which do go beyond the published forward estimates. The reason you do not publish forward estimates beyond four years is because of the unknown factors of income, expenses, that occur further out. They are a less reliable set of published data for which you would be publishing with some risk. But, in terms of committed expenditure, if you have a 10-year plan of rolling capital out, you actually have to properly allocate that for each of the years within which you expect it to be expended. What we have done with this project is that the $100 million that was on promise to the SANFL for AAMI was put out of the forward estimates into the out years, into the capital spend, that has been brought back in. The $200 million is allocated (I think it was in 2015)— Mr Pisoni interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: The member for Unley is warned a second time. The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: I am really trying to answer this, but it is very difficult if they keep interrupting. Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: The Leader of the Opposition! Members on my left! The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: The $200 million that is in the forward estimate period— Mr Pengilly interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: The member for Finniss shouldn't talk to himself. It is a sign of madness. The Deputy Premier. Mr Pengilly House of Assembly Mr Pengilly: I suggest you can't have one rule to yourself and one for everyone else. The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: The Deputy Premier. The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: You're not suggesting I suffer from madness, are you? Members interjecting: The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: They didn't know how to answer that, did they? Members interjecting: The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: I had to get away. I had a bit of fun at my own expense. Don't tempt you? In relation to the $200 million for the rail program, the need for that corridor electrified is now delayed until such time as the SANFL is able to consummate an agreement with developers that meets the government's criteria for a transport oriented development zone and, if it does that, we will run the electrified tram network down to Football Park. We have put that out, delayed that by a further two years and brought that $200 million— Mr Pederick House of Assembly Mr Pederick: St Clair derailed! The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: The member for Hammond! The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: I answered this in the press conference. That $200 million will also be brought into the forward estimates. The term of the net impact to the government's net lending position over a six year period will remain relatively as it is at present. There will be some budgetary impact. We are talking to the commonwealth, Kate Ellis, the federal minister, and even the Prime Minister, I understand, in discussions with the AFL, and they have at least indicated that they are prepared to consider a submission for up to $100 million on this which we will work towards. There will be a best case scenario of a $50 million additional impact over the forward estimates. If we do not get $100 million from the commonwealth, there will be a $150 million impact over the forward estimates. All that capital is provisioned for; we have quite a tranche of unallocated capital that we can use. One point that I will say in conclusion: this is a $450 million commitment at most. It is at least half what it would be for a greenfield site and I would argue will deliver a better, more attractive and— Members interjecting: The Speaker House of Assembly The SPEAKER: Order! The Hon. K.O. FOLEY House of Assembly The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: —workable football stadium that the football codes and the cricket authorities believe is in the best interests of their sporting future.