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  <date date="2009-10-28" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-First Parliament, Third Session (51-3)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Law and Order Issues Postcard</name>
      <page num="4524" />
      <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000600">
        <heading>LAW AND ORDER ISSUES POSTCARD</heading>
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      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="question">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Bragg</electorate>
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          <question date="2009-10-28">
            <name>LAW AND ORDER ISSUES POSTCARD</name>
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        <startTime time="2009-10-28T15:18:00" />
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          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN (Bragg) (15:18):</by>  Does the Premier agree with the member for Reynell that the dirty tricks postcard campaign against the Leader of the Opposition is absolutely disgusting and offensive? The opposition is informed by a constituent—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000603">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Are you listening to it? By a constituent—</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000604">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
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      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000606">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="1804">
        <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000607">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  Ready? The opposition is informed by a constituent of the member for Reynell, in a telephone conversation with her, that she (the member of parliament) did not know that cards were going to constituents in her electorate and that she found it absolutely disgusting and offensive and was appalled that they could attack Isobel Redmond in that way.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Ramsay</electorate>
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          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Economic Development</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Social Inclusion</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the Arts</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Sustainability and Climate Change</name>
          </portfolio>
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        <startTime time="2009-10-28T15:19:00" />
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000608">
          <timeStamp time="2009-10-28T15:19:00" />
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN (Ramsay—Premier, Minister for Economic Development, Minister for Social Inclusion, Minister for the Arts, Minister for Sustainability and Climate Change) (15:19):</by>  Can I say, this is from the Liberal Party, where the second floor of the Liberal Party not only has fake email sites, IT sites and Twitter sites that forge other people's identities, which issued and distributed forged receipts, forged emails and fake documents. Can I just say this: the Liberal Party's dirty tricks section on the second floor is like a crime scene; that is what it is like. We have seen—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000610">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN:</by>  They should put blue tape around it with the words 'crime scene'. What we have seen under this opposition and under this opposition leader and her predecessor is that they are prepared to do anything to smear their way into power, because basically they are so divided—</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000613">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000614">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN:</by>  They spend all their time fighting with each other. Here we have an  opposition—a Liberal Party led by Isobel Redmond—with a dirty tricks unit, which has fake email sites, fake Twitter sites—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3124">
        <name>Mr PISONI</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000615">
          <by role="member" id="3124">Mr PISONI: </by> I have a point of order, sir. This has nothing to do with the question. My point of order is relevance.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. CONLON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000616">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. CONLON: </by> With respect, Mr Speaker, the question again referred in debating terms to dirty tricks. If the Premier wants to respond to a question couched in those terms, he is entirely in order.</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000617">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! I have been giving the Premier a fair bit of latitude in his answer, but perhaps he might wind it up.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000618">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by> Thank you, sir. Politics is about comparing—</text>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000619">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="65">Mr Williams interjecting:</event>
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      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000620">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order, the member for MacKillop!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000621">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by>—and contrasting. It is about being prepared to stand by what you say—</text>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000622">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="65">Mr Williams interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000623">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order, the member for MacKillop!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="4525" />
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000624">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN:</by>  —and it is about meaning what you say and saying what you mean. They have come in here with a series of law and order issues and always backed the soft option on crime. We have a situation here where the previous leader of the opposition and deputy leader of the opposition lost their jobs—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3120">
        <name>Mr PEDERICK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000625">
          <by role="member" id="3120">Mr PEDERICK: </by> I have a point of order, sir, on relevance.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009102869166c9cc8b543fe80000626">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The Premier has concluded his answer. The member for Bragg.</text>
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