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  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2009-10-27" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-First Parliament, Third Session (51-3)</sessionName>
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  <sessionNum>3</sessionNum>
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  <proceeding>
    <name>Bills</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Statutes Amendment (Victims of Crime) Bill</name>
      <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001163">
        <heading>STATUTES AMENDMENT (VICTIMS OF CRIME) BILL</heading>
      </text>
      <subproceeding>
        <name>Final Stages</name>
        <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001164">
          <heading>Final Stages</heading>
        </text>
        <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001165">Consideration in committee of the Legislative Council's amendments.</text>
        <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001166">(Continued from 14 October 2009. Page 4314.)</text>
        <talker role="member" id="563">
          <name>The Hon. I.F. EVANS</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001167">
            <by role="member" id="563">The Hon. I.F. EVANS: </by> I wish to conclude my remarks. The committee might recall that I was halfway through speaking to this matter when the debate was last adjourned, so I sought leave to continue my remarks. I will not hold up the house, but I wish to finish by clarifying the position in relation to the interjection made at the time by the Attorney in relation to Mr John Easling and—</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="531">
          <name>The Hon. M.J. ATKINSON</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001168">
            <by role="member" id="531">The Hon. M.J. ATKINSON: </by> Madam Chair, I rise on a point of order. I am wondering what the case of Mr Thomas Easling and the member for Davenport's attempt to smear his alleged victims has to do with the clause. What is the relevance of it?</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="530">
          <name>The Chair</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001169">
            <by role="member" id="530">The CHAIR: </by> I will listen carefully. The member for Davenport.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="563">
          <name>The Hon. I.F. EVANS</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001170">
            <by role="member" id="563">The Hon. I.F. EVANS: </by> Thank you, Madam Chair. Just before the debate was adjourned the last time this matter was before the committee, the Attorney interjected while I was speaking. It was in reference to that interjection that I wish to respond for 30 seconds and leave the committee to debate the rest of the amendments. I do not wish to hold the committee—</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="531">
          <name>The Hon. M.J. ATKINSON</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001171">
            <by role="member" id="531">The Hon. M.J. ATKINSON: </by> I rise on a point of order. Can I clarify? We are on amendment of section 7A.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="530">
          <name>The Chair</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001172">
            <by role="member" id="530">The CHAIR: </by> We are on amendment No. 6 which talks about the Commissioner for Victims' Rights.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="531">
          <name>The Hon. M.J. ATKINSON</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001173">
            <by role="member" id="531">The Hon. M.J. ATKINSON: </by> Yes, the Commissioner for Victims' Rights.</text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001174">
            <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="7">Ms Chapman interjecting:</event>
          </text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="531">
          <name>The Hon. M.J. ATKINSON</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001175">
            <by role="member" id="531">The Hon. M.J. ATKINSON: </by> Yes, an exempt agency under freedom of information. What relevance does the Easling case have to this clause?</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="530">
          <name>The Chair</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001176">
            <by role="member" id="530">The CHAIR: </by> I will listen attentively.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="563">
          <name>The Hon. I.F. EVANS</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001177">
            <by role="member" id="563">The Hon. I.F. EVANS: </by> I did not wish to regurgitate the debate. The Attorney knows that he is currently investigating the Commissioner for Victims' Rights in relation to a matter of the Easling case—</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="531" kind="interjection">
          <name>The Hon. M.J. Atkinson</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001178">
            <by role="member" id="531">The Hon. M.J. Atkinson: </by> No, the Crown Solicitor is.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="563">
          <name>The Hon. I.F. EVANS</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001179">
            <by role="member" id="563">The Hon. I.F. EVANS: </by> —so I will not venture there. The Attorney acknowledges to the committee that there is a link. I raise the issue—</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="531" kind="interjection">
          <name>The Hon. M.J. Atkinson</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001180">
            <by role="member" id="531">The Hon. M.J. Atkinson:</by>  No, I am not acknowledging any such thing; you just made that up.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="563">
          <name>The Hon. I.F. EVANS</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001181">
            <by role="member" id="563">The Hon. I.F. EVANS: </by> Anyway, during the last debate I referred to the issue of not being able to gain access to documents under the FOI process. I used the Easling matter as an example because that involved people who were allegedly wards of the state under the guardianship of the minister, and I was questioning at what point you become a victim of crime.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="531" kind="interjection">
          <name>The Hon. M.J. Atkinson</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001182">
            <by role="member" id="531">The Hon. M.J. Atkinson: </by> For the purpose of smearing.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="530">
          <name>The Chair</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001183">
            <by role="member" id="530">The CHAIR: </by> Order! The Attorney can answer all the points.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="563">
          <name>The Hon. I.F. EVANS</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <page num="4463" />
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001184">
            <by role="member" id="563">The Hon. I.F. EVANS: </by> As the Attorney interjects tonight, he interjected last time. I simply want to place on the record in response to the interjection a clarification. The house has a longstanding practice, and we get told every day on this side of the house, 'You interject, you give the person on their feet the opportunity to respond.' During the debate, and it is on the record, the Attorney suggested by way of interjection that Mr John Easling joined the Progressive Business Alliance fundraising arm of Labor to gain access.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="531" kind="interjection">
          <name>The Hon. M.J. Atkinson</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001185">
            <by role="member" id="531">The Hon. M.J. Atkinson: </by> About this issue.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="563">
          <name>The Hon. I.F. EVANS</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001186">
            <by role="member" id="563">The Hon. I.F. EVANS: </by> 'About this issue' the Attorney interjects. I want to place on the record an email I have received from Mr Easling to clarify that matter. The email states:</text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001187">
            <inserted>I refer to Michael Atkinson's slandering of both my brother Tom and myself in parliament on Wednesday 14 October 2009.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001188">
            <inserted>It appears that Mr Atkinson has forgotten that I [that is, John Easling] co-sponsored (along with David Simmons, former chair of the SA Economic Development Board) a table of 10 at the Rann govt's first ever business fundraising dinner in (I think) August 2002.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001189">
            <inserted>The ALP host of our table was none other than Mr Atkinson, who spoke at length about his love for the West Torrens Woodville Football Club...[having] regularly attended Eagles matches with his mother. He also spoke of the complexities of the inner sanctum of the ALP now that it was in power.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001190">
            <inserted>The evening was even more notable for the fact that O'Leary Walker Wines were exclusively served, a business in which my family holds an interest. I was given the opportunity to say a few words about the wines on the microphone to all present, including the fact that the OWW 2001 shiraz was the runner-up in the Jimmy Watson Trophy that year.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001191">
            <inserted>About two weeks after the dinner I spoke to Ian Hunter, who I believe was then the state secretary of the ALP, who told me that he sampled the wines at the Edinburgh Hotel and had chosen them because he liked the story of the two winemakers leaving the secure corporate world to pursue their ambitions.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001192">
            <inserted>I also spent some time that evening talking to Steph Key, who was the minister that Tom worked for.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001193">
            <inserted>On the night of the fundraiser Mr Atkinson appeared very tired and spent much of the evening asleep, which explains why he can no longer recall my attendance, which of course contradicts his statements in parliament on October 12.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001194">
            <inserted>I would be grateful if you could raise this matter on my behalf.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text continued="true" id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001195">I have done so. I have corrected the record. Thank you.</text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001196">The committee divided on the motion:</text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001197">
            <table>
              <rowtitle>
                <cell colspan="3">AYES (22)</cell>
              </rowtitle>
              <row>
                <cell>Atkinson, M.J. (teller)</cell>
                <cell>Bedford, F.E.</cell>
                <cell>Breuer, L.R.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Caica, P.</cell>
                <cell>Foley, K.O.</cell>
                <cell>Geraghty, R.K.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Hill, J.D.</cell>
                <cell>Kenyon, T.R.</cell>
                <cell>Key, S.W.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Koutsantonis, A.</cell>
                <cell>Lomax-Smith, J.D.</cell>
                <cell>Maywald, K.A.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>O'Brien, M.F.</cell>
                <cell>Piccolo, T.</cell>
                <cell>Rann, M.D.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Rau, J.R.</cell>
                <cell>Simmons, L.A.</cell>
                <cell>Snelling, J.J.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Stevens, L.</cell>
                <cell>Weatherill, J.W.</cell>
                <cell>White, P.L.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Wright, M.J.</cell>
                <cell />
                <cell />
              </row>
            </table>
          </text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001198">
            <table>
              <rowtitle>
                <cell colspan="3">NOES (13)</cell>
              </rowtitle>
              <row>
                <cell>Brock, G.G.</cell>
                <cell>Chapman, V.A. (teller)</cell>
                <cell>Evans, I.F.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Goldsworthy, M.R.</cell>
                <cell>Gunn, G.M.</cell>
                <cell>Hamilton-Smith, M.L.J.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Hanna, K.</cell>
                <cell>McFetridge, D.</cell>
                <cell>Pederick, A.S.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Penfold, E.M.</cell>
                <cell>Pisoni, D.G.</cell>
                <cell>Venning, I.H.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Williams, M.R.</cell>
                <cell />
                <cell />
              </row>
            </table>
          </text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001199">
            <table>
              <rowtitle>
                <cell colspan="2">PAIRS (6)</cell>
              </rowtitle>
              <row>
                <cell>Conlon, P.F.</cell>
                <cell>Pengilly, M.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Fox, C.C.</cell>
                <cell>Redmond, I.M.</cell>
              </row>
              <row>
                <cell>Rankine, J.M.</cell>
                <cell>Griffiths, S.P.</cell>
              </row>
            </table>
          </text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001200">Majority of 9 for the ayes.</text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001201">Motion thus carried.</text>
          <page num="4464" />
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001202">
            <term>Amendment No. 7:</term>
          </text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="531">
          <name>The Hon. M.J. ATKINSON</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001203">
            <by role="member" id="531">The Hon. M.J. ATKINSON:</by>  I move:</text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001204">
            <inserted>That the Legislative Council's amendment No. 7 be agreed to.</inserted>
          </text>
          <text continued="true" id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001205">The amendments form part of a series explained in amendment No. 2.</text>
        </talker>
        <talker role="member" id="1804">
          <name>Ms CHAPMAN</name>
          <house>House of Assembly</house>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001206">
            <by role="member" id="1804">Ms CHAPMAN:</by>  The same.</text>
          <text id="20091027447cb668d72f45d5a0001207">Motion carried.</text>
        </talker>
      </subproceeding>
    </subject>
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