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  <date date="2009-09-24" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-First Parliament, Third Session (51-3)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Water Security</name>
      <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000484">
        <heading>WATER SECURITY</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="3120" kind="question">
        <name>Mr PEDERICK</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Hammond</electorate>
        <questions>
          <question date="2009-09-24">
            <name>WATER SECURITY</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2009-09-24T14:55:00" />
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000485">
          <timeStamp time="2009-09-24T14:55:00" />
          <by role="member" id="3120">Mr PEDERICK (Hammond) (14:55):</by>  My question is to the Minister for the River Murray. Will the minister guarantee that any of the 890 gigalitres announced today under the proposed New South Wales/federal government agreement will reach the Lower Lakes?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1783" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Chaffey</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the River Murray</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Water Security</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2009-09-24">
            <name>WATER SECURITY</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2009-09-24T14:55:00" />
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000486">
          <timeStamp time="2009-09-24T14:55:00" />
          <by role="member" id="1783">The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD (Chaffey—Minister for the River Murray, Minister for Water Security) (14:55):</by>  I thank the member for his question because it is a really good question. Guarantees? Is there a guarantee that any of these entitlements that have been purchased by the commonwealth will—</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000487">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1783" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000488">
          <by role="member" id="1783">The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD:</by>  I will start again.</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000489">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000490">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000491">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="7">Ms Chapman interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000492">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order, the member for Bragg!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1783">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000493">
          <by role="member" id="1783">The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD:</by>  The issue of guaranteeing whether or not the entitlements that the federal government is purchasing actually have water allocated to them will depend upon rainfall in the catchments. If there is rainfall in the catchments that is available to be allocated to those entitlements, they will no longer be used for cotton or rice, they will be used for the environment. However, once again, they are dependent upon rain.</text>
        <page num="4132" />
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000494">The member for Hammond well knows (and if he does not, he should) that, under the water act that was passed through parliament by Malcolm Turnbull and the previous government, there was the establishment of a Commonwealth Environmental Water Holder. The Commonwealth Environmental Water Holder is an independent body that has the responsibility to develop an environmental watering plan, taking into account the needs of the critical priority areas in the basin that require water under the environmental plan. The Lower Lakes and the Coorong, as a Ramsar site, is one of those priorities areas.</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000495">However, what this government is 100 per cent committed to is that the national government should have processes in place that involve independence in the development of these plans so that we can take the borders out of it. That is what we support. The science will show where the water is needed most.</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000496">This is in stark contrast to the opposition's position before the last election in 2006. The opposition's position on the River Murray was to support the retention of state control of the River Murray. I know it has changed its mind on that and I know it changed its mind some time in 2007. I think it was some time after the honourable member for Davenport lost the leadership.</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000497">I recall that, when Turnbull first talked about a national plan, it was opposed by the opposition. It did not want a takeover by the federal government of the River Murray. That is in the opposition's policy position in March 2006.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000498">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman:</by>  What about the National Party, Karlene?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1783">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000499">
          <by role="member" id="1783">The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD:</by>  The National Party's position in South Australia, as the member for Bragg has asked, has been for the federal government to take a strong leadership role and take over the management of the Murray-Darling Basin.</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000500">In fact, when Malcolm Turnbull came out with his national plan, I supported it, but on the proviso that we had an independent authority that could do the work necessary to underpin the decisions with science and not politics. The National Party in South Australia did not support—</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000501">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="7">Ms Chapman interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1783">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000502">
          <by role="member" id="1783">The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD:</by>  National Party policy in South Australia. The National Party policy in South Australia is that the federal government must have taken a stronger role.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000503">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman:</by>  What was it in 1999, Karlene?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1783">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000504">
          <by role="member" id="1783">The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD:</by>  In 1999 my position on the select committee (that I was a part of) as National Party leader in South Australia—the National Party in South Australia—</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000505">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="7">Ms Chapman interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1783">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000506">
          <by role="member" id="1783">The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD:</by>  I need to give her a lesson on the National Party.</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000507">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000508">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1783">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000509">
          <by role="member" id="1783">The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD:</by>  The National Party in Australia consists of each state having an independent party of their own.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1807">
        <name>Dr McFETRIDGE</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000510">
          <by role="member" id="1807">Dr McFETRIDGE:</by>  Point of order, Mr Speaker. I do have a question.</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000511">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1783">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000512">
          <by role="member" id="1783">The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD:</by>  Don't interject!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000513">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Is there a point of order?</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000514">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1783">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000515">
          <by role="member" id="1783">The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD:</by>  No, I have not finished yet. The interjection was that the National Party policy was important to this question, so therefore I am answering it. The National Party in South Australia is a separate party, as is the Victorian party, as is—</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000516">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000517">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000518">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN:</by>  It is deeply offensive to be described as National Socialists. You might think this is funny. Some of us had parents, like my father, who spent six years fighting National Socialists which is the formal term for Nazis.</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000519">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000520">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="4133" />
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000521">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN:</by>  I think this is incredibly offensive to the people of this state as well as to individuals.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000522">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The Premier will take his seat.</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000523">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000524">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000525">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN:</by>  I ask that you retract the use of that word.</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000526">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000527">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The house will come to order. I did not hear the remark or the remarks and I am not exactly sure, if they were made, what was meant by them. If the remarks were meant to imply that another member was a Nazi, then I think that would be disorderly and, if the member did say it and that is what she meant, then that is something she should withdraw. The Leader of the Opposition.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1813">
        <name>Mrs REDMOND</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000528">
          <by role="member" id="1813">Mrs REDMOND:</by>  Sir, I said it, but I did not imply any such thing by that comment.</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000529">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000530">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The house will come to order.</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000531">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000532">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!  The Premier will come to order. The Leader of the Opposition will come to order. The Minister for the River Murray has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1783">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000533">
          <by role="member" id="1783">The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD:</by>  I conclude my remarks by saying that, since my election to this parliament and my leadership of the National Party of South Australia, we have been supportive of the national government taking a stronger leadership role in the management of the Murray-Darling Basin.</text>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000534">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000535">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The house will come to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1783">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000536">
          <by role="member" id="1783">The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD:</by>  This is what all South Australians want, and it took a long time for the Liberal Party members opposite to come around to that thinking. We are glad that they have and, from a bipartisan perspective—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000537">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS:</by>  Point of order, Mr Speaker: the minister is now clearly debating the answer to the question.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000538">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:</by>  I think the minister is wrapping up her answer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1783">
        <name>The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009092413c0e8d693354a7480000539">
          <by role="member" id="1783">The Hon. K.A. MAYWALD:</by>  I am wrapping up my answer and, in conclusion, I would like to say that I am very pleased now that everyone in this house does support that there needs to be a national role—and a very significant national role in the management of the Murray-Darling Basin.</text>
      </talker>
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