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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Electricity, Load Shedding</name>
      <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001064">
        <heading>ELECTRICITY, LOAD SHEDDING</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="631" kind="question">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Waite</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
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          <question date="2009-02-03">
            <name>ELECTRICITY, LOAD SHEDDING</name>
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        <startTime time="2009-02-03T14:57:00" />
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          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH (Waite—Leader of the Opposition) (14:57):</by>  My question is to the Premier. Before the current heatwave, was he or any minister in his cabinet aware that, under the government's electricity regulatory arrangements, systematic load shedding across Adelaide would occur without notice?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Ramsay</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Economic Development</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Social Inclusion</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the Arts</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Sustainability and Climate Change</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2009-02-03">
            <name>ELECTRICITY, LOAD SHEDDING</name>
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        <startTime time="2009-02-03T14:57:00" />
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001066">
          <timeStamp time="2009-02-03T14:57:00" />
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN (Ramsay—Premier, Minister for Economic Development, Minister for Social Inclusion, Minister for the Arts, Minister for Sustainability and Climate Change) (14:57):</by>  I certainly was not informed, although I am told the Liberals have been briefing journalists that we were informed of this load shedding several months ago. So, somehow, because this is going to be the policy of the Liberal leader should he ever be elected as Premier, he will hold a crystal ball in his hand and say, 'Oh, yes, in two months' time there will be a bushfire in the Latrobe Valley and the interconnector with Tasmania will go down.' He now wants to criticise the electricity authorities.</text>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001067">I have some more quotes, because the great thing about this Leader of the Opposition is that he leaves a trail behind him. What did he say in parliament on 27 May 1998, when I was fighting the sale of our electricity assets—because in South Australia we used to own, operate and manage our electricity assets and our electricity system? He said—</text>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001068">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001069">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001070">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by> He does not want to hear his own words. We heard what he said. He wants to follow Western Australia on building a stadium. He said:</text>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001071">
          <inserted>Selling or floating ETSA is the right decision for South Australia...I am confident that it will be successful and it is the best decision for the taxpayer...can you [the ALP opposition] just get out of the way and let us get on with selling the assets.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001072">Mr Hamilton-Smith, member for Waite, House of Assembly, Wednesday 27 May 1998. Then he went on to say:</text>
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          <inserted>There is a strong argument for selling ETSA and Optima, and it focuses around the monopoly and competition issue. ETSA and Optima have, in effect, enjoyed a monopoly in South Australia for many years. There has been nibbling at the edges in terms of supply, but basically ETSA and Optima can call the shots. All that is changing.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001074">He then went on to say:</text>
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          <inserted>The government does not need to own these assets in order to control and secure them for the people of South Australia. </inserted>
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        <text continued="true" id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001076">He says:</text>
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          <inserted>...ETSA and Optima and the deregulated electricity market will come under increasing pressure...ETSA and Optima will simply become a liability to the taxpayer...a business (ETSA) with falling revenue and rising cost does not work, a point that seems to have consistently been missed by the opposition. How can we afford to upgrade the extensive facilities owned by Optima and ETSA in the years ahead without increasing taxes or cutting services?</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001078">And so it goes on. Of course, because we know that he—</text>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001079">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">An honourable member interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001080">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by> Here we go, 27 May; this is why he supported it. He says here—</text>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001081">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001082">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001083">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by> He says:</text>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001084">
          <inserted>First, I refer to the new environment in which we now live. The ALP seems not to have realised that the world is changing. The eastern bloc communist regimes have collapsed—the wall is down. All over Europe, Asia and the Americas private enterprise is flourishing. The world economy is freeing itself from the shackles of over-regulation, government ownership and socialist enterprise.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001085">There he was, calling for the Wall Street free market that has torn down the world economy. He is prescient. His crystal ball was working that day as well. So, can I say this—</text>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001086">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001087">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001088">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by> I have written to NEMMCO today and asked it to have an inquiry into the way—</text>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001089">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001090">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001091">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by> —that it informs the public. It will come back and say, I know, 'Hang on a minute, we were faced with a crisis that was unprecedented.' It is the first time it has happened since 2002, or, I think, the minister said 2000. It is the first time it has happened in eight or nine years. Basically, either we had load shedding or we had a catastrophic breakdown across the country which would see pressure placed on hospitals. Basically, it did rolling load shedding for up to 40 minutes and, in some other cases, 30 minutes. So, I guess—</text>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001092">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001093">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001094">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by> We saw the announcements being made as well.</text>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001095">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="22">Mr Hamilton-Smith interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001096">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by> Yes, but the point is that there is the man who was part of the team that paid—</text>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001097">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001098">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001099">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by>—$100 million to a group of gringo consultants, with their cash in their hands—</text>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001100">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001101">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2009020319bf555344794485b0001102">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN: </by>—who were basically paid to sell off electricity assets in this state. No-one believes what you say anymore!</text>
      </talker>
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