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  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2008-11-27" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-First Parliament, Third Session (51-3)</sessionName>
  <parliamentNum>51</parliamentNum>
  <sessionNum>3</sessionNum>
  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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  <proceeding>
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000396">
      <heading>Question Time</heading>
    </text>
    <subject>
      <name>Atkinson/Ashbourne/Clarke Affair</name>
      <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000397">
        <heading>ATKINSON/ASHBOURNE/CLARKE AFFAIR</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="631" kind="question">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Waite</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2008-11-27">
            <name>ATKINSON/ASHBOURNE/CLARKE AFFAIR</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2008-11-27T14:07:00" />
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000398">
          <timeStamp time="2008-11-27T14:07:00" />
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH (Waite—Leader of the Opposition) (14:07):</by>  Will the Premier now change the way he deals with allegations of corruption involving ministers in his own government? A statement yesterday by three members of the former Select Committee into the—</text>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000399">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000400">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000401">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  I wouldn't laugh if I was you.</text>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000402">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000403">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000404">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  You're as guilty as hell.</text>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000405">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000406">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Hon. M.J. ATKINSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000407">
          <by role="member" id="531">The Hon. M.J. ATKINSON:</by>  A point of order, sir: the Leader of the Opposition just made an imputation against me which is contrary to the standing orders and practice of the house.</text>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000408">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000409">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="531">
        <name>The Hon. M.J. ATKINSON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000410">
          <by role="member" id="531">The Hon. M.J. ATKINSON:</by>  The remark was 'as guilty as hell' and I ask that he withdraw it forthwith.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000411">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:</by>  Yes; the leader must withdraw it. That is an imputation.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000412">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  I am happy to withdraw the remark, sir.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. Rann</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000413">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. Rann:</by>  And apologise.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000414">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! It is not necessary. He just needs to withdraw it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000415">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  With your leave, I will explain. A statement yesterday—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="interjection">
        <name>An honourable member</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="1195" />
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000416">
          <by role="member" id="627">An honourable member:</by>  He's a bit stronger than you, mate.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000417">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000418">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH:</by>  —by three members of the former Select Committee into the Atkinson/Ashbourne/Clarke Affair recommends that the Premier be censured for his failure to properly report to the Anti-Corruption Branch of South Australia Police the substance of allegations made by Cressida Wall on 20 November 2002. It further states that the Premier was censured for his seven-month delay in informing the parliament—all the people of South Australia—of the events which led to his appointment of Warren McCann to conduct an inquiry. The statement also includes evidence from the Crown Solicitor that:</text>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000419">
          <inserted>The police investigation was seriously compromised by the delay of seven months between the time the McCann inquiry began and when the matters were finally reported to the Anti-Corruption Branch.</inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Ramsay</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Economic Development</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Social Inclusion</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for the Arts</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Sustainability and Climate Change</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <startTime time="2008-11-27T14:09:00" />
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000420">
          <timeStamp time="2008-11-27T14:09:00" />
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN (Ramsay—Premier, Minister for Economic Development, Minister for Social Inclusion, Minister for the Arts, Minister for Sustainability and Climate Change) (14:09):</by>  The only corruption was the Liberals' involvement in this exercise. I am not sure whether it was a kangaroo court, but the fact is that we saw—</text>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000421">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000422">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000423">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN:</by>  —the coaching of witnesses. Also, can I just say the difference is that there was someone charged and someone prosecuted who then went to court and was acquitted. All due processes occurred—</text>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000424">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000425">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000426">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN:</by>  —then what we did is something that your government would never have done: I informed the Auditor-General of the situation and invited him—</text>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000427">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000428">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000429">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN:</by>  —to make an inquiry.</text>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000430">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000431">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="634">
        <name>The Hon. M.D. RANN</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000432">
          <by role="member" id="634">The Hon. M.D. RANN:</by>  I will just say that those involved in the upper house in this exercise in coaching witnesses are as bent as forks.</text>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000433">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="20081127273a72da08d442dab0000434">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The Minister for Transport! The leader will come to order!</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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