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  <date date="2008-11-25" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-First Parliament, Third Session (51-3)</sessionName>
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    <name>Question Time</name>
    <subject>
      <name>South Australian Economy</name>
      <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000708">
        <heading>SOUTH AUSTRALIAN ECONOMY</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="3118" kind="question">
        <name>Mr GRIFFITHS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Goyder</electorate>
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          <question date="2008-11-25">
            <name>SOUTH AUSTRALIAN ECONOMY</name>
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        <startTime time="2008-11-25T15:52:00" />
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000709">
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          <by role="member" id="3118">Mr GRIFFITHS (Goyder) (15:52):</by>  Does the Treasurer believe that South Australia will go into recession in light of the current economic turmoil? The ANZ Bank has forecast one quarter of economic decline nationally. However, ABS data confirms that South Australian economic growth has consistently underperformed national growth in recent years. South Australia's foremost domestic demand growth has been lower than the national average since September 2003.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Port Adelaide</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industry and Trade</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Federal/State Relations</name>
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        <questions>
          <question date="2008-11-25">
            <name>SOUTH AUSTRALIAN ECONOMY</name>
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        <startTime time="2008-11-25T15:53:00" />
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000710">
          <timeStamp time="2008-11-25T15:53:00" />
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY (Port Adelaide—Deputy Premier, Treasurer, Minister for Industry and Trade, Minister for Federal/State Relations) (15:53):</by>  The Leader of the Opposition recently—</text>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000711">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">An honourable member interjecting:</event>
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      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000712">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  No, I have my dockets; I am doing a bit of paperwork to make some use of question time. The opposition criticised me for some comments I made which, on reflection, may have been a little honest and upfront but, when compared to what many people have been saying about the current situation, they were, in fact, quite consistent. We are in a very difficult economic environment. The Leader of the Opposition attacked me for irresponsibility and recklessness for talking down an economy. Here we have the shadow finance minister talking about South Australia going into a recession. Talk about talking down an economy. Talk about reckless, ill-considered questions—that is one of them.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Williams</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000713">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr Williams:</by>  He gave you an opportunity to talk it up and you failed.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000714">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order, the member for MacKillop!</text>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000715">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000716">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The Treasurer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  Sir, they are losing it over there. They have lost it this question time. Look at him.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546">
        <name>Mr WILLIAMS</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000718">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr WILLIAMS:</by>  My point of order is relevance. The opposition finance spokesman asked a question about—</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The member for MacKillop will take his seat. The answer is relevant, but it is debate. The Treasurer needs not to debate the question—however relevant it might be—and simply answer it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. CONLON</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="1042" />
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000720">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. CONLON:</by>  A point of order, sir: it is completely out of order to interject but it is also out of order to interject when you are raging up and down the corridor and, if he does not do that, it is less likely that the Deputy Premier will need to enter into debate. He should just calm down.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000721">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:</by>  I ask all members to behave with dignity in the chamber. It should not be too much to expect. The Deputy Premier.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000722">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  What is required during this very difficult period of time is leadership and management of the finances and the economy with calmness, a cool head and a confident ability. Just imagine members opposite and the shadow treasurer with his performance today where he has clearly misrepresented within a matter of two minutes one thing he said—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000723">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! That is—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000724">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  Sorry, sir; I brought it in with the context of the fact that managing a state or a national government during a difficult financial crisis does take some calmness, confidence and—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="3127" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Portolesi</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000725">
          <by role="member" id="3127">Ms Portolesi:</by>  Ability.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000726">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  —ability, yes. I just say that members opposite are not demonstrating that. No, I do not believe South Australia will enter into a recession; I do not believe Australia will, but what I cannot say is what lies ahead of us over the next six, 12 or 18 months—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. Conlon</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000727">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. Conlon:</by>  Because no-one can.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000728">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  —because nobody knows. The truth of the matter is—and I was accused by members opposite of being an alarmist a few months ago when I first raised this issue—this is the most substantial and most difficult financial time arguably the world has ever seen. It is quite a different situation in many parts than what occurred in the Great Depression because in those days we did not have the social policies and the social safety nets that we have in civil society today. But the wealth destruction that has occurred globally is quite extraordinary.</text>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000729">We see what is happening with the automotive industry in the United States. We see overnight that the United States government has guaranteed Citibank to the tune of $300 billion—I think the words are of 'toxic mortgages'. What an extraordinary development! You have President-elect Barack Obama, apparently by some reports, considering a further $700 billion fiscal stimulus to the United States' economy.</text>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000730">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="9">The Hon. P.F. Conlon interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000731">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  Yes, there was a substantial UK injection into fiscal policy. Of course, the Premier and I travel to COAG on Thursday, Friday and Saturday—we are meeting all day Saturday—and we will hear there hopefully the intentions of the federal government as it relates to states' finances and further fiscal stimulus.</text>
        <text id="200811253212eeb331d04fa1b0000732">This is a period of economic meltdown and uncertainty for which none of us, least of all a state treasury, has a capacity to see what is going to happen in the next six to 12 months. The best we can do is to brace ourselves and to position ourselves to the best of our ability to withstand the economic and financial shocks if and when they arrive. We have certainly seen a banking crisis, we have seen a financial crisis, we now see what occurs as it rolls out through the real economy. I cannot with any confidence predict the future but I am very hopeful and I have been given no advice that would suggest to me that we are going to head into recession.</text>
      </talker>
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