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  <name>House of Assembly</name>
  <date date="2008-10-15" />
  <sessionName>Fifty-First Parliament, Third Session (51-3)</sessionName>
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  <parliamentName>Parliament of South Australia</parliamentName>
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  <proceeding>
    <name>Question Time</name>
    <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000225">
      <heading>Question Time</heading>
    </text>
    <subject>
      <name>State Budget</name>
      <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000226">
        <heading>STATE BUDGET</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="631" kind="question">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Waite</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Leader of the Opposition</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2008-10-15">
            <name>STATE BUDGET</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2008-10-15T14:09:00" />
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000227">
          <timeStamp time="2008-10-15T14:09:00" />
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH (Waite—Leader of the Opposition) (14:09):</by>  My question is to the Treasurer. Is it his failure to responsibly manage Treasury over seven budgets which has left the government with little choice other than to slash spending on transport, prisons, education or health infrastructure in the face of an inevitable economic downturn?</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000228">In the past seven years, the Treasurer has received buoyant tax revenues which have increased government income from around $8 billion in 2002 to almost $15 billion within this estimates period. The Treasurer has increased taxes by over 65 per cent, with some property taxes, such as land tax, up by 247 per cent. The Commonwealth Grants Commission has described South Australia as working its tax base more than any other state.</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000229">The Treasurer's surplus is only 1.2 per cent of revenue. The Treasurer told the house yesterday that his net asset to liabilities ratio has exceeded 80 per cent—the highest in the nation and beyond the trigger at which Standard &amp; Poor's would review the state's AAA rating. Budget papers further show that borrowings will reach $5.2 billion within the estimates period.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532" kind="answer">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Port Adelaide</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industry and Trade</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Federal/State Relations</name>
          </portfolio>
        </portfolios>
        <questions>
          <question date="2008-10-15">
            <name>STATE BUDGET</name>
          </question>
        </questions>
        <startTime time="2008-10-15T14:10:00" />
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000230">
          <timeStamp time="2008-10-15T14:10:00" />
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY (Port Adelaide—Deputy Premier, Treasurer, Minister for Industry and Trade, Minister for Federal/State Relations) (14:10):</by>  I heard the Leader of the Opposition on the radio today saying that he could deliver a football stadium to South Australia—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="526" kind="interjection">
        <name>The Hon. P.F. Conlon</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000231">
          <by role="member" id="526">The Hon. P.F. Conlon:</by>  A billion-dollar one.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000232">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  —for a billion dollars plus, without any taxpayer money, because that is what they did at the Telstra Dome. Honestly, is this guy seriously suggesting that he could manage the state's finances?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Hamilton-Smith</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000233">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr Hamilton-Smith:</by>  You are a good-time Treasurer; that's it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532" kind="answer" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000234">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  A good-time Treasurer. For information purposes I have Budget Paper 3 of the 2008-09 budget—Treasury compiled documentation on the financial performance of the last government and this government—so let us just go through this and let an objective assessment of our financial performance give the picture.</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000235">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000236">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000237">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000238">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  No; I am happy to acknowledge—</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000239">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="65">Mr Williams interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000240">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:</by>  The member for MacKillop will come to order! The Treasurer has the call.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000241">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  I am happy to acknowledge the post-sale of ETSA period because, whether we agreed or disagreed (and obviously we disagreed with that decision), you sold ETSA. So, in fairness to the former government let us look at the budget performance post the sale of ETSA.</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000242">In 1988-89 the net operating balance under the Liberals was minus $208 million. The 1999-2000 budget result under Rob Lucas and the Liberals was a deficit of $330 million. The 2000-01 deficit was $297 million under the Lucas and Hamilton-Smith government, and in 2001-02 there was a $174 million net operating deficit under the Liberals. That is post the sale of ETSA, so let us put the State Bank behind us. They sold ETSA—</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000243">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000244">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000245">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000246">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  Iain Evans, how are you doing up there? Are you reinventing yourself up there?</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000247">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000248">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000249">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  When this government took office, in our first budget in 2002-03 there was a surplus of $448 million. In 2003-04 there was a surplus of $385 million, and in 2004-05 there was a surplus of $224 million. In 2005-06 there was a surplus of $202 million, and then in 2006-07 there was a surplus of $209 million. In 2007-08 there was a $373 million net operating surplus, and this year we are budgeting for $160 million. Of course, events have changed, with the surplus rising to in excess of $400 million in the out years.</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000250">It is a demonstrable fact that under Labor governments the budget positions of the state have been strong operating surpluses; under Liberals, strong operating deficits.</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000251">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000252">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000253">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  I can tell you, they are in good shape now.</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000254">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">An honourable member interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000255">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  He wants me to pay the teachers; 'Pay the teachers,' he says. The leader is out there saying we are spending too much money, and the genius over here says to give the teachers $2.5 billion. That is what they are asking for. There is no consistency of message—</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000256">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="46">Mr Pisoni interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000257">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  So, we pay them $2.5 billion?</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000258">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="46">Mr Pisoni interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000259">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  So, we pay the teachers what they are asking for?</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000260">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="46">Mr Pisoni interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000261">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000262">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  The shadow education minister is saying that we should pay the teachers what they are asking for: $2.5 billion. Leader, do you agree?</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000263">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="22">Mr Hamilton-Smith interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000264">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  Do you agree with him?</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000265">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000266">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000267">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000268">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! I call the house to order. I expect the house to come to order. The Treasurer.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000269">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  Thank you, sir. Well, we are clearly—</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000270">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="22">Mr Hamilton-Smith interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000271">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  I'm a clown? Well, do you agree with him?</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000272">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000273">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627" kind="interjection">
        <name>An honourable member</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000274">
          <by role="member" id="627">An honourable member:</by>  He won't agree.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000275">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  Of course he won't agree. We have division on the frontbench of the Liberal Party over fiscal policy—over what they will pay teachers. I can say to the shadow minister that, if we were to agree to what the teachers are asking for, this state would be in huge deficit and would be in serious, serious financial difficulty.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000276">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman:</by>  We are already.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000277">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  Oh, righto. So, you agree with your colleague?</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000278">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="7">Ms Chapman interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000279">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The Deputy Leader of the Opposition will come to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000280">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  I just find it hard to follow their line of argument. They are saying that we are spending too much—</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000281">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="65">Mr Williams interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000282">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The member for MacKillop will come to order.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000283">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  They say we are spending too much, but then we get these calls for a new stadium for $1 billion, and we have the genius over there saying we should give the teachers $2½ billion. I mean, honestly, they will walk both sides of the street. They will say whatever they need to say to whatever interest group they are talking to. But, when it comes down to proper, tough budget management, this outfit over there is left wanting.</text>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000284">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000285">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="2008101589826a76c49d48d0b0000286">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY:</by>  What I have said is that we have delivered surplus after surplus after surplus, and what did we recover under our government? The AAA credit rating. So, play all the politics you like, but the truth is that we have the track record, we have the performance, and we have the confidence of the people of South Australia.</text>
      </talker>
    </subject>
  </proceeding>
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