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    <name>Ministerial Statement</name>
    <subject>
      <name>Auditor-General's Report</name>
      <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000313">
        <heading>AUDITOR-GENERAL'S REPORT</heading>
      </text>
      <talker role="member" id="532" kind="speech">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <electorate id="">Port Adelaide</electorate>
        <portfolios>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Deputy Premier</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Industry and Trade</name>
          </portfolio>
          <portfolio id="">
            <name>Minister for Federal/State Relations</name>
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        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000314">
          <timeStamp time="2007-10-17T14:09:00" />
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY (Port Adelaide—Deputy Premier, Treasurer, Minister for Industry and Trade, Minister for Federal/State Relations) (14:09):</by>  I seek leave to make a ministerial statement.</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000315">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532" kind="speech" continued="true">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000316">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> You will say and do anything, you lot.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000317">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! </text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000318">Leave granted. </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000319">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> Yesterday the Auditor-General handed down his annual report for the year ending 30 June 2007. As it has every year, the report analyses and often critiques the way the government of the day and its agencies manage their finances.</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000320">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">An honourable member interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000321">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> No, I am happy to take questions. The report also thoroughly examines the state budget, its settings going forward, and its results for the previous financial year. The report makes some key observations. Regarding the budget settings, the report states:</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000322">
          <inserted>Maintaining forecast net operating balance surpluses represents overall good financial planning, providing some flexibility and buffer against unfavourable influences and events that may affect budget outcomes.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000323">It also states:</text>
        <page num="1087" />
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000324">
          <inserted>The state's balance sheet is expected to strengthen over the four years of the 2007-08 budget as measured by net worth. Net financial worth, however, declines due to the growth of financial liabilities. Both these trends are consistent with borrowing to build infrastructure.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000325">That is the important point. Yesterday and this morning we heard the Leader of the Opposition state the following:</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000326">
          <inserted>The Auditor-General flagged and he's saying...you better watch out for that AAA rating if that happens.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000327">I have read the documents, I have read the reports, and I cannot find that quote anywhere. But I could find the following quote—</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000328">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000329">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000330">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> Well, you cannot misrepresent and think that you can get away with it.</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000331">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="65">Mr Williams interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000332">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000333">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> I did find the following quote:</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000334">
          <inserted>South Australia has had a AAA credit rating since September 2004. The rating was affirmed in August 2007.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000335">That is right, Mr Speaker, after analysing the budget papers, examining revenue and expenditure settings, and going over the government's capital investment program for the next four years, both Standard &amp; Poor's and Moody's have reaffirmed South Australia's AAA credit rating.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Hamilton-Smith</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000336">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr Hamilton-Smith: </by> With qualifications.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000337">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> With qualifications. He yet again misrepresents the facts, sir: there is no qualification.</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000338">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="22">Mr Hamilton-Smith interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000339">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000340">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> Good; go right ahead, because then for once we might see whether you are telling the truth.</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000341">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="22">Mr Hamilton-Smith interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000342">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> Well, you have not to date. The Rann government is reinvesting in our schools—</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000343">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH: </by> On a point of order: that is unparliamentary. I think it is offensive, and I call on the Treasurer to withdraw it.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000344">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by> What is unparliamentary?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="631">
        <name>Mr HAMILTON-SMITH</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000345">
          <by role="member" id="631">Mr HAMILTON-SMITH: </by> He is virtually accusing me of lying, and saying it is untruthful. Mr Speaker, if you want to maintain standards, here is an opportunity.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000346">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! I heard howls of accusations from members on my left that the deputy was making misleading statements, which I let go. I have not heard the Deputy Premier say anything that is unparliamentary.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000347">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> I have got thick skin, Marty.</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000348">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="22">Mr Hamilton-Smith interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000349">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000350">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> Yes; go right ahead. The Rann government—</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000351">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="22">Mr Hamilton-Smith interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000352">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The Leader of the Opposition will come to order. The Deputy Premier has the call.</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000353">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="22">Mr Hamilton-Smith interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="1088" />
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000354">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> I tell the truth on radio. The Rann government is reinvesting in our schools, our hospitals, our prisons and our roads. The Auditor-General points out that one of the government's primary fiscal targets is:</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000355">
          <inserted>To achieve net lending outcomes that ensure the ratio of net financial liabilities to revenue continues to decline towards that of other AAA-rated states.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000356">It is true that there is a slight increase in our ratio of liabilities to revenue brought about by increased borrowings to fund our investment infrastructure. With a strong balance sheet, this is an appropriate and prudent thing to do, and it is plain wrong to say that it threatens our AAA credit rating—it does not. Standard &amp; Poor's reinforced this when it said in its ratings direct analysis of South Australia in August this year:</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000357">
          <inserted>South Australia's capital program to fiscal 2011 is not expected to appreciably weaken its balance sheet.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000358">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">An honourable member interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000359">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> That is interesting because Moody's rating outlook in their latest credit opinion issued this week—this week—with all the information available to it, says:</text>
        <text continued="true" id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000360">
          <inserted>The stable outlook reflects Moody's assessment that the state is well positioned to manage a more complicated fiscal environment over the medium term—including a slowing in property-related revenues and rising expenditures—given prudent financial management and a positive debt profile.</inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="1804" kind="interjection">
        <name>Ms Chapman</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000361">
          <by role="member" id="1804">Ms Chapman: </by> Provided Foley is not in charge.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000362">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> They have been pretty happy with our work to date.</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000363">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="22">Mr Hamilton-Smith interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000364">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000365">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> You still haven't got over losing the election in 2002, have you? You go around talking about yourself as the 'alternate Premier'.</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000366">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="49">The Hon. M.D. Rann interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000367">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by>He goes around calling himself the 'alternate Premier', not 'Leader of the Opposition'.</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000368">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="22">Mr Hamilton-Smith interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000369">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The house will come to order. The Leader of the Opposition is warned.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000370">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> Sir, the Leader of the Opposition said:</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000371">
          <inserted>Basically we're spending more than we're receiving, and that's a problem.</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000372">This is yet again plain wrong. If the leader had read the Auditor-General's Report more closely, he would have come across this statement:</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000373">
          <inserted>The 2007-08 Budget Papers show that the Government financial operations for 2006-07 are on target for a budgeted net operating balance surplus...</inserted>
        </text>
        <text continued="true" id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000374">Further, ‘One of the Government's primary fiscal targets’—</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000375">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000376">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:</by>  Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000377">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> Mr Speaker, if they put wrong statements to the public, I have to correct the record. The Auditor-General continues:</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000378">
          <inserted>One of the Government's primary fiscal targets is the achievement of net operating balances every year. This means that revenues are covering expenses, including interest and depreciation.</inserted>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Williams</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000379">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr Williams: </by> Yes; revenues include borrowings.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000380">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> Sorry?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="546" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Williams</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000381">
          <by role="member" id="546">Mr Williams: </by> Revenues include borrowings.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000382">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> They do not.</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000383">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="65">Mr Williams interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000384">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <page num="1089" />
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000385">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> A shadow minister, sir, has just said 'Revenues include borrowings.'</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000386">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order!</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000387">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000388">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by>Are you serious?</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="549" kind="interjection">
        <name>Mr Venning</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000389">
          <by role="member" id="549">Mr Venning: </by> I presume you're spending it!</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000390">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The Deputy Premier will take his seat. The house will come to order. Members on my left will not interject. If they want to respond to anything that the Deputy Premier is saying, there are means available for them to do that. They must not do it by continuing to disrupt the Deputy Premier's statement. He has been given leave to make the statement; he has the leave of the house to make the statement; he must be allowed to do that without being interrupted. I also ask the Deputy Premier not to respond to interjections, because it just encourages them.</text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000391">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> Thank you, sir, but I just add that I find it extreme, and I am happy to give the member for MacKillop a lesson in Treasury matters, if he is making statements as he just did—'revenues include borrowings'.</text>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000392">
          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="22">Mr Hamilton-Smith interjecting:</event>
        </text>
      </talker>
      <talker role="member" id="532">
        <name>The Hon. K.O. FOLEY</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000393">
          <by role="member" id="532">The Hon. K.O. FOLEY: </by> Six surplus budgets, I am pretty happy with that. The Leader of the Opposition has got it wrong. The budget is in surplus, and I can confidently predict it will be across the forward estimates. Later this year, the government will be handing down (as normal) its midyear budget review; and I can say to the house that it will show that the budget position remains strong and will do so across the forward estimates, notwithstanding the misleading and ill-informed comments of the Leader of the Opposition.</text>
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          <event kind="interjection" role="member" id="56">Members interjecting:</event>
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        <name>Mr Hamilton-Smith</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
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          <by role="member" id="631">Mr Hamilton-Smith: </by> It is all right for them but it is not all right for us, is that it, Mr Speaker?</text>
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      <talker role="member" id="627">
        <name>The Speaker</name>
        <house>House of Assembly</house>
        <text id="200710173651d7e4cad44fe780000396">
          <by role="member" id="627">The SPEAKER:  </by>Order! The Leader of the Opposition is very close to being named. He has made such statements on a number of occasions, but I will no longer let them go. The Leader of the Opposition should perhaps talk to the member for Stuart about what is available to the Speaker in dealing with members who continue to ignore the Speaker's rulings. </text>
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